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Darwin was right about Christianity

Darwin was right about Christianity

‘I can indeed hardly see how anyone ought to wish Christianity to be true; for if so the plain language of the text seems to show that the men who do not believe, and this would include my Father, Brother, and almost all my best friends, will be everlastingly punished. And this is a damnable doctrine.’

Charles Darwin penned his memoirs between the ages of 67 and 73, finishing the main text in 1876. These memoirs were published posthumously in 1887 by his family under the title Life and Letters of Charles Darwin, with his hardest-hitting views on religion excised.

Only in 1958 did Darwin’s granddaughter Nora Barlow publish The Autobiography of Charles Darwin 1809-1822 with original omissions restored, including the above quote.

Darwin’s birthday today – he was born on February 12, 1809 – inspired our very own Shell Fisher to create the image below.

Darwin

Meanwhile, an increasingly hysterical Ken Ham of Answers in Genesis decided to mark Darwin’s birthday with a “Darwin Was Wrong Day“, saying:

Secularists are becoming increasingly aggressive and intolerant in promoting their anti-God philosophy. Evolutionary ideas provide the foundation for this worldview because they seemingly allow mankind the ability to explain the existence of life and the universe without God.

As Christians, we need to be bold in proclaiming the truth of God’s Word to a hurting (groaning, Romans 8:22) world.

This year, on February 12, instead of celebrating Darwin’s anti-God religion, we can take this opportunity to show the world that Darwin’s ideas about our supposed evolutionary origins were wrong, and that God’s Word is true, from the very beginning. Let’s make February 12 Darwin Was Wrong Day and point people to the truth of God’s Word.

The demented Ham said here that he decided to create “Darwin was Wrong” day in response to a resolution introduced to the United States House of Representatives that seeks support to have February 12 recognised nationwide as “Darwin Day:”

This is reportedly an attempt to recognize ‘Charles Darwin as a worthy symbol on which to focus and around which to build a global celebration of science and humanity intended to promote a common bond among all of Earth’s peoples’.

This follows on the heels of an announcement that Delaware governor Jack Markell has announced ‘Charles Darwin Day’ in the state of Delaware. This day will be ‘a time to reflect and celebrate the importance of [Darwin’s] scientific achievements’.

Governor Markell and the state of Delaware are not the first to celebrate Darwin on February 12. Many secularists, and sadly even many churches, have commemorated Darwin’s birthday over the years with Darwin Day celebrations.

Let’s also remember that today also marks the birth in 1809 of America’s 16th President, Abraham Lincoln, who also held Christianity in contempt.

Lincoln

Among the words inscribed at the Lincoln Memorial are Lincoln’s Second Inaugural address, which, though full of conventional references to the “Almighty,” astutely observes of the North and the South:

Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God’s assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men’s faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged.

While Lincoln punctuated his eloquent speeches with deistic references to “Divine Providence”, in which he firmly believed, he was strongly rationalist and was not Christian.

In Life of Abraham Lincoln, which you can read in full here thanks to Project Gutenberg, Colonel Ward H. Lamon (a religionist and Lincoln’s longtime friend), wrote:

Mr. Lincoln was never a member of any Church, nor did he believe in the divinity of Christ, or the inspiration of the Scriptures in the sense understood by evangelical Christians. When a boy, he showed no sign of that piety which his many biographers ascribe to his manhood.

When he went to church at all, he went to mock, and came away to mimic. When he came to New Salem, he consorted with Freethinkers, joined with them in deriding the gospel story of Jesus, read Volney and Paine, and then wrote a deliberate and labored essay, wherein he reached conclusions similar to theirs.

Hat tip: BarrieJohn (Answers in Genesis)

21 responses to “Darwin was right about Christianity”

  1. Trevor Blake says:

    “I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent & omnipotent God would have designedly created the Ichneumonidae [wasp] with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of caterpillars, or that a cat should play with mice.” – Darwin in a letter to Asa Gray, 22 May 1860.

  2. Robster says:

    I can imagine that silly Ham person waking each morning and looking for something to justify his particular brand of religiously inspired nonsense. He’s probably got a calendar noting the great Darwin’s birthday and thought (if that’s possible for Mr. Ham) “let’s say something stupid to get some publicity for me, any publicity is good publicity”. If this brain dead twit is the best they can offer, the battle’s already won.

  3. JohnMWhite says:

    Darwin’s thoughts on the damnable doctrine are where I tend to start conversations on faith these days. It is becoming somewhat disturbing that a multitude of people remain happy to believe in that being that is put before them in all its vicious, petty glory. After they admit to idolising the celestial bully, what else can you say?

    The more earnest among the faithful tend to twist themselves in knots pretending that their chosen deity isn’t anything like the thing his own book presents him as. Then we wind up in tortured semantic arguments about whether or not the lake of fire of the bible is a metaphor or a mistranslation, and then that gets applied to every single monstrous act of god in that tome, and then the question remains “so why is all the stuff about heaven and love and feeding the hungry not also a mistranslation or a metaphor?”

    All the more reason to see the doctrine as damnable – it destroys the mind of anyone caught in its snare, and it does so by abject fear and domination. They can’t think, not because they are incapable but because they are terrified of the consequences.

  4. Ryan Tyrrell says:

    Hmm…I cant seem to make sense of what mind you speak of? The mind that is the result of a series of (unproven) mutations? Darwinism is anti-logic, not christianity.

    To just put your semantic concerns at ease…hell, according to the bible, is very real. Christians who shy away from this answer are either too scared to say it, or ignorant of scripture. However, there are metaphors in the bible, just as there is poetry, history, narratives, prophecy, and parrables…your question about what’s to say all of the bible is not metaphor is misplaced. Books contain metaphors all the time don’t they? And yet, that doesn’t mean every page is filled with metaphors.

    You know, I am a cancer patient, and I have never once looked up at God and say “you are such a bully!”…why you ask? Because I understand that God created a world without cancer, but our disobedience brought upon us the death we now experience day by day. And I understand that he sent his son to suffer the pains of this world to show his great love for me despite the fact I deserve death.
    You can call christianity what you may, but some of the greatest minds in the world are and we’re christians: John Lennox, Ravi Zacharis, C.S Lewis, Michaelangelo, John Calvin, Martin Luther, Bach….and the list goes on.

    You hate the idea of an Omnipotent, Omniscient, all loving, and just God? And yet you call christians illogical.

    I challenge you to read the bible and to read an actual commentary (or many) Before claiming to know it is false. It is an amazing book…about an amazing God who puts up with us despite our sin.

  5. Newspaniard says:

    At this point, I would like to thank who ever (whomsoever?) recommended “God is not Great” by Christopher Hitchins. Where I find a lot of non-fiction difficult and boring, this book is incredible in its incitefulness and humour (taking the p@ss). I am half way through now and am sure that I’ll miss it when I’ve finished. Many thanks again.

  6. Broga says:

    If you have common sense, intelligence, curiosity and an ability to read you can only believe Christianity if:

    (a) you block your thinking about it;

    (b)you are so terrified of being mortal that you cling to your childhood beliefs;

    (c)belief is essential to your career, often as a priest, and so you pretend even to yourself;

    (d) you are one of the semi literate millions dependent of what the priests tell you because you have no access to anything else;

    (e) you are indifferent and a nominal Christian because you can’t be bothered to be anything else;

    (f) you are a politician or a royal because religion is a great way to control the plebs.

    (g) you are a narrow, bigoted, miserable git who can’t bear to see anyone having fun (especially sex) and preaching against it is some solace for your own misery.

  7. Rob Andrews says:

    This is what I’ve been able to distill about why people believe or don’t believe.

    People believe for the reasons:
    a) They are born into it. and early childhood education leaves a permanent imprint of the brain.
    b) They adopt religion-generally the dominent one in their culture-for emotional need. Prisoners often convert–I know a lot who did.

    People don’t believe for the reasons:
    a) they’re born into a secular family. Early chilhood education-as above.
    b) they become ‘disalusioned’. “God never answers my prayers”.Kinda thing.

    Religion has diminished in the modern west because we have a longer and better standard of living( heaven is less important). Unlike Africa where live is still brutal and short. People need the solice of god there.

  8. sailor1031 says:

    @Ryan Tyrrell:
    ..when exactly did you commit the first sin of disobedience against your deity? was it really so bad a sin that you deserve, as punishment, to linger with cancer in this life and burn forever in the next? What were your other sins that confirmed the sentence? How do you know your sentence has been suspended? Yeshue bar Yussef never told you that – it was made up by Saul of Tarse who never met Yeshue and knew little to nothing about him. In fact when Saul visited Jerusalem to meet with Yeshue’s direct followers, including Yeshue’s own brother, they told Saul he was wrong! Who you gonna believe? your own knowledge and common sense or that lyin’ Saul?

  9. Rob Andrews says:

    @John M. White:
    “The more earnest among the faithful tend to twist themselves in knots pretending that their chosen deity isn’t anything like the thing his own book presents him as. Then we wind up in tortured semantic arguments about whether or not the lake of fire of the bible is a metaphor or a mistranslation,”

    Right. You can’t pin them down on wither Noah’s ark and Garden of Eden is real or metaphor.They they say”The bible can be interpreted in many ways”. So is is real or just a story?!.. They can’t seem to get this.

  10. David Anderson says:

    Another godbot driveby who imagines that they have something profound to say and we have never heard it before.

    I would guess that most, if not all, of the people who read and post on Freethinker have read the bible and are now atheists because of the vile bullshit therein.

  11. Trevor Blake says:

    Ryan Tyrrell: can God, who you say is omniscient, know the feeling of surprise? Looking forward to your answer.

  12. Angela_K says:

    @Ryan Tyrrell you need to study Biology at micro and macro levels and some Physics, but for an indoctrinated mind such as yours, it would be a waste because you’d still ignore the evidence.

  13. Broga says:

    @Ryan Tyrrell: You have my atheistic sympathy in your religious “mind forged manacles.” One leap of courage and you could be free. Your God has an insatiable need for applause in the form of prayer wherein self confessed unworthy sinners ask their God to alter the ways of nature for their benefit.

    Prayer: asking an omniscient God to change its mind.

  14. Marky Mark says:

    @Ryan Tyrrell:
    Is it not your belief that your all mighty cloud god has planned out your life since conception, every high, low, and tragedy was planned…even the time your soul was to return??
    If so, by fighting this cancer that your cloud god sent to you, apparently to bring your soul back…are you now not in violation of gods word and plan and subject to going to hell to burn and scream in pain for eternity???

  15. Travis Zly says:

    Stephen Hawking describes Mathematics as the “Mind of God” in his book, “A Brief History of Time”. The first words of the book of Genesis are written in a number code which represents the energy relationships in Thermodynamics. The 27 symbols of the code are arranged in a 9×3 matrix. The basic symmetry of the matrix is binary. Professor William Schroeder, formerly of the Physics department of MIT, has shown how the Six Days of Creation can be related by a half-life exponential Mathematical formula that shows that each “day” represents a geological age, e.g. Triassic, Pre-Cambrian, Cretaceous, etc. The Bible is written entirely in allegorical language which uses symbols to represent the evolution of consciousness available to each individual. It is regrettable that people read the Bible literally. It is a guide-book which teaches us how to access higher dimensions and tap into the unlimited power of the Universal Mind. Einstein’s Theory of General Relativity and the Quantum Theory described by Irwin Schroedinger, show that “matter” does not exist and that the Universe consists of disturbances in the fabric of space. Our five senses can only perceive a miniscule range of frequencies along a infinite spectrum. It astounds me that people are so ready to use their miniscule sensory apparatus and limited neural data-processing abilities to make pronouncements concerning the unseen and unimagined elements of an infinite Universe which is expanding at the speed of light. As Science increases the range of its reach into the Macro-and Micro-Universe it reveals answers to existential questions. Those who have directly experienced the power of the Universe flowing through their being are few in number. It takes great faith to trust in the unseen Universe. The secret is to maintain an “open” mind, an attitude which is all too rare in our modern world of induced consumerism and materialism. Good luck to all who show love and tolerance to those who hold an opposing world-view, for your eyes will be opened.

  16. JohnMWhite says:

    @Ryan – I already accomplished your challenge. It’s why I’m an atheist. Nice try, but your bullshit won’t wash, and I don’t want to talk to you any more because you creep me out by claiming to worship something that gave you cancer because a snake convinced a woman to eat an apple the idiot tyrant left unattended. That’s not normal.

    By the was CS Lewis was shit at philosophy. I mean really, really bad. Mere Christianity is appalling. And John Calvin was a vicious, evil fiend who was fortunately honest enough to admit that Christianity really boils down to “might makes right”. Telling me Michaelangelo believed in Christianity isn’t exactly impressive, either, considering his alternative was to be tied to a stake and burned to death by Christians.

    @Trevor Blake – maybe even god wasn’t expecting the Spanish Inquisition?

  17. Stephen Mynett says:

    Apart from torture and death there was another good reason for artists, composers etc to profess a profound belief – Money. Many were employed by the church or the Courts of the rich and needed to toe the party line to be sure of further work

    As for Martin Luther, he was not the most objective either, here are some quotes from his works.

    “Die verfluchte Huhre, Vernunft.” (The damned whore, Reason).

    “Reason is the Devil’s greatest whore; by nature and manner of being she is a noxious whore; she is a prostitute, the Devil’s appointed whore; whore eaten by scab and leprosy who ought to be trodden under foot and destroyed, she and her wisdom … Throw dung in her face to make her ugly. She is and she ought to be drowned in baptism… She would deserve, the wretch, to be banished to the filthiest place in the house, to the closets.”
    Martin Luther, Erlangen Edition v. 16, pp. 142-148

    “Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but — more frequently than not — struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.”

    “Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed. Faith must trample underfoot all reason, sense, and understanding, and whatever it sees must be put out of sight and … know nothing but the word of God.”

    “There is on earth among all dangers no more dangerous thing than a richly endowed and adroit reason… Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed.”
    Martin Luther, quoted by Walter Kaufmann, The Faith of a Heretic, (Garden City, NY, Doubleday, 1963), p. 75

    “Reason should be destroyed in all Christians.”

    “Whoever wants to be a Christian should tear the eyes out of his Reason.”

    “To be a Christian, you must “pluck out the eye of reason.””

    “People gave ear to an upstart astrologer [Copernicus] who strove to show that the earth revolves, not the heavens or the firmament, the sun and the moon. Whoever wishes to appear clever must devise some new system, which of all systems is of course the very best. This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy; but sacred scripture tells us [Joshua 10:13] that Joshua commanded the sun to stand still, and not the earth.”
    Martin Luther, “Works,” Volume 22, c. 1543

    “We know, on the authority of Moses, that longer than six thousand years the world did not exist.”
    Martin Luther, “Lectures on Genesis”

    “All our experience with history should teach us, when we look back, how badly human wisdom is betrayed when it relies on itself.”

  18. dennis says:

    second that @ JMW
    fairy believers look for the easy way out of education, no science, no reason, and no logic, just control by conmen.

  19. gegsieline says:

    What a fantastic debate, Ryan Tyrrell gets my vote. Against all the odds he manages to raise an argument. Long live god and open argument. Its a pity bible bashers don’t support such clear headed investigation.

  20. gegsieline says:

    Oh by the way Ryan – Wake up