News

Pence’s law could cost Indiana billions

Pence’s law could cost Indiana billions

Indiana is experiencing a harsh blowback after its Governor, Mike Pence, above,  this week signed into law an anti-gay ‘religious freedom’ Bill to ‘help protect churches, Christian businesses and individuals from those who want to punish them because of their Biblical beliefs’.

The moment he did so, big names in entertainment and commerce rallied to urge a boycott of the state, which, at the same time, had to enact emergency measures against an epidemic of HIV among drug users.

Pence insists the law is not discriminatory, but others strongly disagree.

According to the BBC in reports here and here, the National Collegiate Athletic Association said it was “especially concerned” about how the law would affect its employees and student athletes. Mark Emmert, NCAA President, said in a statement:

The NCAA national office and our members are deeply committed to providing an inclusive environment for all our events.  We are especially concerned about how this legislation could affect our student-athletes and employees. 

We will work diligently to assure student-athletes competing in, and visitors attending, next week’s Men’s Final Four in Indianapolis are not impacted negatively by this bill. Moving forward, we intend to closely examine the implications of this bill and how it might affect future events as well as our workforce.

Salesforce, a California company with ties to Indiana, cancelled all employee travel to the state and said it was considering decreasing its investment in Indiana, and the large gamer convention, GenCon, has threatened to hold its events elsewhere because of the law. If GenCon pulls out of Indiana, it could cost the state millions in lost income.

Corporate executives such as Jeremy Stoppelman of Yelp and Tim Cook of Apple have urged other states not to follow Indiana’s example.

Stoppelman wrote in an open letter:

These laws set a terrible precedent that will likely harm the broader economic health of the states where they have been adopted, the businesses currently operating in those states and, most importantly, the consumers who could be victimised under these law.

Cook, who recently came out as gay, took to Twitter yesterday to criticise the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, saying:

Apple is open for everyone. We are deeply disappointed in Indiana’s new law and calling on Arkansas Gov. to veto the similar .

Many businesses in Indiana are putting up stickers that condemn the Religious Freedom Act

Many businesses in Indiana are putting up stickers that condemn the Religious Freedom Act

Hillary Clinton, a prospective presidential candidate, wrote on Twitter on Thursday:

Sad this new Indiana law can happen in America today. We shouldn’t discriminate against people because of who they love.

Gay Star Trek star George Takei, who has a large following on social media, also pushed for a boycott of the state.

Even Indianapolis Mayor Greg Ballard, a Republican, said the law sends a “wrong signal” to visitors and could make the state seem unwelcoming.

The term #BoycottIndiana had been a top trending topic on Twitter. One Twitter user, Dan Savage, savaged Pence and Indiana, saying:

Shitty governor makes shitty state even shittier by signing shitty legislation. 

29 responses to “Pence’s law could cost Indiana billions”

  1. Trevor Blake says:

    A legal right available to theists and denied to atheists. Perhaps no atheist wants this legal right – that is a separate issue. This law discriminates against atheists.

  2. Good to hear how people are responding to this, shaming Indiana and costing it money.

    But why don’t US states with the death penalty get the same reaction?

  3. Angela_K says:

    @Peter English, as you may know Indiana still has the death penalty and I agree with your comment.

    I hope Indiana lose loads of money over this spiteful little fascist law. I note the spurious claim of “…want to punish them because of their Biblical beliefs” Is it not the case that it is the Christians who are punishing Gays and Atheists because of the Christians perverted and bigoted belief?

  4. L.Long says:

    Some bigoted xtians pass their versions of sorry-ass-law.
    Other hypocritical xtian followers of their book o’BS, object not so much to the bigotry but to the lose of money.
    This is flat out disgusting in its own right, but since xtians are obsessed with both sex and money, then make those aholes suffer. And we will hear “it aint everyone!!” well BS! The majority voted this dimwitted idiot rePUKEian into office, so suffer! All the ‘innocent ones’ can learn to get to the booth and VOTE!!!! I for one will buy nothing from Indiana!

  5. Lurker111 says:

    As of yesterday, the Gov’s Facebook page was still accepting comments. They were running about 20:1 against him, and some of the language was colorful enough to give us jaded posters a refresher course in twisting the knife.

    Example: One post contained a reference to “barbed-wire dildoes.” You can imagine the rest.

    All well-deserved, of course.

  6. SallyinMI says:

    So I guess Pence is no longer on the GOP short list for POTUS?

  7. Broga says:

    Is it possible for a fundamentalist Christian in public office to have a typical look? They all seem to look like this nutter.

  8. Lurker111 says:

    “Is it possible for a fundamentalist Christian in public office to have a typical look? They all seem to look like this nutter.”

    I _have_ wondered about the cookie-cutter image that certain Christians carry. It’s almost like flaunting an ID card. Maybe it has something to do with evolutionary selection. :/

    Or, maybe it’s akin to this:

    https://newbeautifulera.wordpress.com/2013/03/30/how-nature-says-do-not-touch-a-classic-far-side-comic/

  9. dennis says:

    NAZIE,NAZIE,NAZIE
    paraphrasing “I did not stand when they came for
    When they came for me their was no one to help me .”
    Damn It this is America, I believe in our ideals, although our history is loaded with insults to our ideals of freedom and understanding of our citizens this is a insult to me as an American. then that idiot (she is an American dennis) in Arizona wants me to be forced forced forced to go to church. i propose that she be forced to NOT to go to church.
    ok rant over. thanks for listening

  10. Broga says:

    @Lurker111: Nice one.

  11. barriejohn says:

    Peter English: How about they combine their bigotry towards homosexuals with the death penalty, thus killing two birds with one stone, so to speak?

    A California lawyer has proposed a “Sodomite Suppression Act” and warned of “God’s just wrath” should the state of California not put homosexuals to death.

    The lawyer who is proposing the legislation, Matt McLaughlin, says “buggery” and “sodomy” are an “abominable crime against nature” and a “monstrous evil that Almighty God, giver of freedom and liberty, commands us to suppress on pain of our utter destruction”.

    McLaughlin is calling for homosexuals to be executed “by bullets to the head or by any other convenient method.”

    The Sodomite Suppression Act warns that “any person who willingly touches another person of the same gender for purposes of sexual gratification be put to death” and that no person may “distribute, perform, or transmit sodomistic propaganda.”

    http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2015/03/sodomite-suppression-act-proposed-by-us-christian-lawyer

    “Sweet land of liberty”

  12. Barry Duke says:

    Erm, Barriejohn … we were first with the McLaughlin piece:
    http://freethinker.co.uk/2015/03/03/christian-proposes-firing-squads-for-gays/

  13. Dog Gone says:

    The first instances of anti-gay discrimination are already taking place in Indiana, at restaurants.

    Yeah, this isn’t an anti-gay bill? Baloney. That is a deliberate lie by those self-styled good Christians. Apparently bigotry and violating the ten commandments when it comes to dishonesty are now both optional .

  14. Gindy51 says:

    I live in this shit hole state and you can bet your bottom dollar I will be taking as much of my business out of state as I can. Big ticket items? I will drive to KY, OH or IL to buy a car. Fuck Indiana.

  15. Marky Mark says:

    The state of Indiana is broke already…need politicians who are more concerned about jobs than religious orders there. Actually most of the “Red” religious conservative states here in the US are broke and many live in extreme poverty in those states.

  16. Har Davids says:

    This new low in religiously motivated laws shows that religion is a dangerous thing to bestow upon the feeble-minded; they really run wild with their holy book, forsaking decency and common sense. All we can do now, is wait to see how much it’s going to cost the Indiana tax-payer, and whether the law will be revoked any time soon.

  17. barriejohn says:

    Marky Mark: That’s a good point. Many of us in the UK are still woefully ignorant of the reality of life in the USA. Back in the day we watched American films, and TV programmes like The Dick Van Dyke Show and Burns and Allen, and assumed that all Americans lived in mansions with huge kitchens, fridges the size of a small room, garages like barns, and drove cars the size of tanks. Most of us are better educated now, but I’m pretty sure that, apart from some understanding of attitudes in the South (largely as a result of the civil rights movement), many Britons wouldn’t really understand the difference in outlook between a resident of Indiana and a Bostonian, nor the animosity between them!

  18. barriejohn says:

    Thousands march, but Arkansas follows suit:

    http://www.torontosun.com/2015/03/28/thousands-march-in-indiana-to-protest-law-seen-targeting-gays

    A day after Indiana’s move, the Arkansas Senate overwhelmingly approved a similar bill, which Governor Asa Hutchinson, a Republican, has said he would sign into law.

  19. Vanity Unfair says:

    Have I got this right?
    Your right to discriminate against me is greater than my right not to suffer discrimination on the grounds of perceived sexuality. Well, you’re not going to demand I tell you, outright, are you?
    How does this differ with your right to discriminate on the grounds of melanin abundance? It’s a deep tan; I’ve been on holiday.
    What about the Y-chromosome count as a legitimate sorting technique? It has biblical authority?
    Should it be lawful to ask how many gods have my allegiance? That, surely, must come under the heading of religious freedom.
    If I have any physical abnormality, is that a sign of divine displeasure? You cannot take a chance on it.
    It seems to me that this just might be “an establishment of religion” as forbidden by the first amendment to the USA Constitution. I must be wrong because a State Governor would surely know about that.
    I’m reminded of an old description of a person of less than optimal intellectual capability. This was before both political correctness and decimal currency: nine pence to the shilling.

  20. chris moffatt says:

    I guess we need a law that states that before you can take an oath to uphold and defend the constitution you have to read it and understand it. Especially the 14th. But of course that would need another amendment to the constitution and these morons wouldn’t read that either.

  21. Socratesdefjam says:

    So a religion whose purported founder says this: “How can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.” Who also says, “judge not lest you be judged”; be in any way used as support for a law that discriminates against another? Does the law allow business to discriminate against people who’ve had a divorce? That’s just as big of a sin in the NT, so why not make that a focus of your “Christian” outrage? No, the law is plainly bigotry.

  22. barriejohn says:

    Socratesdefjam: What about adulterers? Is every potential customer going to have to make a sworn statement as to their marital fidelity, etc, to qualify for service by Indiana businesses? And how does this anti-gay discrimination work in practice? It’s obvious whether a person is black or not, but are store owners going to be making arbitrary decisions about people’s sexuality? “You look gay to me, pal”. This must be one of the worst thought out pieces of legislation ever devised!

  23. Socratesdefjam says:

    barriejohn: You make excellent points. Can Jews refuse to serve goyim who’ve consumed pork? I mean they are unclean in the eyes of god, so why should they have to countenance them in their shops? The list of stupid reasons to refuse someone service is probably endless. Of course if your purpose is to use the legislative process to enshrine the rights of bigots, you’re probably not clever enough to see the unintended consequences.

  24. barriejohn says:

    Socratesdefjam: We had exactly the same thing from those hotel owners, the Bulls, and even intelligent commenters didn’t get it. They weren’t anti-gay bigots; they just wanted the right to ask that only wedded couples copulated beneath their sheets. Did they ask to see marriage certificates? Did they ask for proof of identity (with photographs)? Did they check that none of their guests were transgender or crossdressers? Did they heck! They just didn’t want gay couples on their premises:

    http://freethinker.co.uk/2013/11/27/christian-bigots-peter-and-hazelmary-bulls-have-lost-their-supreme-court-appeal-in-gay-snub-case/

  25. barriejohn says:

    And Ashers Bakery won’t supply a cake celebrating gay marriage, but WILL bake a Hallowe’en Cake. Fucking hypocrites!

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/03/27/bakery-in-gay-cake-row-asked-why-it-makes-halloween-cakes-but-not-gay-marriage-ones/

  26. […] Indiana’s Governor Mike Pence’s insistence that that the Religious Freedom Restoration Act he recently signed into law is not discriminatory, he has dismally failed to halt a rapidly growing national ‘boycott […]

  27. […] Studies at Rutgers University in New Jersey – and right now she’s pretty pissed off at Indiana’s Governor, Mike Pence and the Religious Right in […]

  28. […] Tasmania Religious Freedom Bill apes legislation introduced in Indiana by Governor Mike Pence. The Bill will allow any religious school to refuse to enroll any student who it regards as […]