PM faces backlash over Islam speech

PM faces backlash over Islam speech

In a speech at a security conference in Bratislava, Slovakia, David Cameron today stirred up a hornet’s nest for saying that British Muslims were ‘quietly condoning’ the Islamic State.

According to this Telegraph report, the British Prime Minister said of domestic radicalisation:

The cause is ideological. It is an Islamist extremist ideology: one that says the West is bad and democracy is wrong, that women are inferior and homosexuality is evil. It says religious doctrine trumps the rule of law and Caliphate trumps nation state, and it justifies violence in asserting itself and achieving its aims. The question is: how do people arrive at this world view?

I am clear that one of the reasons is that there are people who hold some of these views who don’t go as far as advocating violence, but do buy into some of these prejudices – giving the extreme Islamist narrative weight and telling fellow Muslims ‘you are part of this’.

This paves the way for young people to turn simmering prejudice into murderous intent. To go from listening to firebrand preachers online to boarding a plane to Istanbul and travelling onward to join the jihadis.

He added:

We’ve always had angry young men and women buying into supposedly revolutionary causes. This one is evil, it is contradictory, it is futile but it is particularly potent today.

I think part of the reason it’s so potent is that it has been given this credence. So if you’re a troubled boy who is angry at the world or a girl looking for an identity, for something to believe in, and there’s something that is quietly condoned online – or perhaps even in parts of your local community – then it’s less of a leap to go from a British teenager to an Isil fighter or an Isil wife than it would be for someone who hasn’t been exposed to these things.

According to this Metro report, there was a swift and furious reaction from British Muslims who said that that they aren’t and shouldn’t be held responsible for people who choose to join Islamic State in the Middle East.

Metro ran a poll which shows that 52 percent of Brits think Cameron was wrong to to blame the Muslim community.


In his address to the conference, whose delegates included the leaders of Estonia, Georgia, Poland and Macedonia, Cameron said that Britain would accept several hundred more people fleeing the civil war in Syria by “modestly expanding” a scheme that has taken in under 200 refugees so far.

Last year announced Britain will take around 500 Syrian refugees over three years. Some 187 people have been taken in since that announcement.

Government sources said that will increase “by a few hundred more” after today’s announcement.

12 responses to “PM faces backlash over Islam speech”

  1. asquith says:

    Personally I am bitterly ashamed that “my” country does so little to give a refuge to those fleeing Islamic State, which is the logical conclusion of Islam. It shows what a thoroughgoing cunt Cameron is that he’d rather pander to racist focus group twats than do the right thing by these unfortunate Christians, heathen and please let’s not forget atheists, who are currently being given the good news of the religion of peace.

    As for extremism in Britain, when will these “intersectionality” twats that harangue me about my (non-existant) “privilege” say or do anything about the fact that every mosque in this country is run by old, conservative men who are bitter misogynysts and homophobes? Thought not.

  2. Shafiqur Rahman says:

    If any terrorist act or misdeed against a muslim man or woman hurts the people of the muslim community, then of course in a sense all the people of the muslim community are part of Isil, Quayeda and Taliban terrorism.Some governments are sincerely or fakely fighting against the Isil, Quayeda and Taliban terrorists, but general muslim peoples have not even condemned the terrorists’ deeds, nor the their philosophy yet.The West is good and democratic – that is a matter of controversy, but terrorism can not be seconded. The West is not only fighting against the terrorism, but also fighting for their vested interests.

  3. L.Long says:

    ALL moderates of ALL religions empower the extreme violence of the few.
    They claim they don’t, but not one sect of moderates have rewritten their book o’BS to take out the fear, hate, bigotry, or condoned violence!!!
    So they are empowering the extremists.!!!!!

  4. Stephen Mynett says:

    Cameron can say what he likes but while his government carries on its love affair with faith-based academies and refuses to make our education system secular he will continue to see children being indoctrinated by fundamentalists and extremists of all religions.

  5. Ivan says:

    “…homosexuality is evil…”

    According to the Roman Catholic church it is evil AND disordered so I take it Mr Cameron will be addressing them also in due course.

  6. Secular Humanist says:

    Me thinks Cameron’s a tad bit hypocritical. His own faith, and his own church is also bigoted and misogynistic.
    I do applaud him for speaking out on the problem we face with islam and the many (but of course not all) radical Muslims living in the UK, who’re extremely conservative on social issues, and do sympathize with terrorists, do support death for apostasy and blasphemy, and do want to usher in the shariah.
    To deny that there’s a significant amount of British Muslims who feel this way, is just to deny reality. We can’t afford to be “politically correct” about such dangerous (and increasingly popular) ideas.

  7. (&$%^&&%$% says:

    Go read the news … on any day … and you will see that islam is at the root of 95% of the strife in the world today. Islam is an absolute abomination, a blight on humanity, a serious threat to civilisation and all that is good in the world. Islam … the shitty skid mark in the underpants of mankind

  8. JohnMWhite says:

    The question is: how do people arrive at this world view?

    Their holy book told them. But it’s not as if Islam is the only religion that thinks these things. The Anglican church is tearing itself apart over people clinging to the idea that women are inferior and homosexuals are evil, and they have bishops in the government. Unelected, I might add, almost as if religion trumps law and democracy…

    This is just self-serving bullshit from Cameron, probably to try to remind people he’s might want to keep the EU but he’s still racist like the rest of your mates down the pub. Everybody can be easily scared of the nutters chopping off heads thousands of miles away and you can pick out the people we’re supposed to worry about joining them just by looking at their skin and clothes. Brilliant, let’s kick the easy targets and pretend that this bloody ideology of “my god’s bigger than your god” is all their fault and not the history of the whole of Europe, from the Inquisition to the Crusades to the pogroms to the Holocaust to the Troubles.

    So now Cameron finds himself attacked from both sides – people with a conscience who know he’s pandering while deliberately missing the bigger picture, and ‘moderate’ Muslims whining that he pointed out their own teachings.

  9. Newspaniard says:

    WTF? We wait for years for a (any) politician to stand up and say it how it is and suddenly FT is flooded with commenters who are defending the terrible death cult. Fact: Not all Germans were Nazis, the “good men” just stood by and watched what was happening without doing anything about it. The Nazis were “quietly condoned”. Fact: Not all muslims are terrorists, the “good men” just stand by and watch what is happening without doing anything about it. The islamofascists are “quietly condoned”. The poll says a lot. Around 50% agree with Cameron… it only takes a few votes to move the percentages either way. The other 50% are represented here (today). Have you noticed the howls of victimhood? It didn’t take very long for the platinum victim cards to be waved especially by those in burkas, hijabs and nightshirts. The mainstream press will (has) followed suit in their truly creepy way. Ho Hum.

  10. JohnMWhite says:

    @Newspaniard – try to read correctly. Nobody is protecting the death cult, they just think Cameron’s attack is bullshit because it is strikingly hypocritical given his relationship with another religion that teaches homosexuality is evil, women are inferior, religious law trumps civil law and flies in the face of democracy. Your points about Nazis and so on are irrelevant – you are arguing against something nobody is saying. We’re all well aware that ‘moderates’ are enablers for extremists because they hold up the same book as some kind of moral guide.

  11. I.M. Pistoff says:

    Of course there’s a backlash, as there would be from whichever religion happened to be targeted. Believers are the most thin-skinned of all special interests.