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Barack Obama defies Kenyan evangelicals

Barack Obama defies Kenyan evangelicals

Ahead of his recent visit to Kenya, President Obama was warned by hundreds of evangelical pastors to steer well clear of the gay rights and same-sex marriage.

According to this report, 700 Kenyan pastors wrote an open letter asking the President not to come to their country and talk about gay equality issues.

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Bishop Mark Kariuki, pictured above with his wife, was the key architect of that letter. He leads an alliance representing 38,000 churches and 10 million Kenyan Christians. He said:

We do not want him to come and talk on homosexuality in Kenya or push us to accepting that which is against our faith and culture.

Let him talk about development; let him talk about cooperation; let him talk about the long-time relationship Kenya has had with America, But about our beliefs and culture – keep off!

Well, Obama did not “keep off”, and at a press conference with the Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta, spoke movingly about the cause of gay rights, comparing the plight of homosexuals to the battle against slavery and segregation in the USA.

He said he was:

Painfully aware of the history when people are treated differently under the law. That’s the path whereby freedoms begin to erode and bad things happen. When a government gets in the habit of treating people differently, those habits can spread.

Kenyatta reacted by declaring gay rights in Kenya as “a non-issue”.

The fact of the matter is that Kenya and the United States share so many values … but there are some things that we must admit we don’t share.

Homosexuality is illegal in Kenya and 37 other African countries. In fact, Kenya’s penal code says any individual “who has carnal knowledge of any person against the order of nature” can face 14 years jail time.

Bishop Kariuki said he’ll fight to keep homosexuality a crime in Kenya.

It is an abomination to God. Kenya is 82 percent Christian. So, as far as our conviction and our faith are concerned it is not a natural thing

Kariuki said the President was destroying America with his support for gay marriage.

I believe that with all my heart with that agenda he is ruining America because America has been known as a Christian nation. It has been known as a nation that has sent missionaries out. Now it is a different nation all together because it is an agenda against God!

Enter American evangelist Franklin Graham. According to Pink News:

He could not help but shake his weary head in disbelief after reading reports that the US President publicly challenged Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta about gay rights over the weekend.

Graham wrote on Facebook:

I didn’t know that we were sending our president halfway around the world to promote the gay and lesbian agenda!

Samaritan’s Purse has an office in Kenya and has worked there many years, and I can tell you that the churches in Kenya know what the Bible says about homosexuality — it is a sin.

As a world leader, the United States of America is now exporting the acceptance of immorality via our president. What will the cost of that be?

This is not the first time Graham has supported the anti-gay approach to leadership – he has praised Russia’s leader, claiming Vladimir Putin is “doing what’s right for Russia” by implementing anti-gay policies.

Meeanwhile, we learned this week that a new documenary, showing how Western evangelicals are generating hatred towards LBGT communities in Uganda, has been released.

The Story of Western Christian Evangelicals in Uganda shows that these dangerous bigots:

Have turned to the developing world to spread their hateful anti-gay sentiments, as their views are no longer tolerated by the majority in their own countries.

Their actions have lead not only to anti-gay legislation, but extremely high levels of homophobia among the public in these nations that are a target of the homophobic propaganda.

Hat tip: Angela K (Frankin Graham report)

21 responses to “Barack Obama defies Kenyan evangelicals”

  1. L.Long says:

    “who has carnal knowledge of any person against the order of nature”
    What a sack of lying BS and bigotry! I can hear the whole country of bigots screaming ‘LALALALALALALALALALALALALALA’ As any on with a brain bigger then a cockroach’s butt tries to reason with them. Good lovin’ bigoted hate filled xtians!!! Ya got to lov’em!

  2. Newspaniard says:

    Obama pushing something other than the muslim agenda, that makes a change for Barrack Hussein.

  3. AgentCormac says:

    @Newspaniard
    What do you think Obama is doing to push a ‘muslim agenda’? I thought America had done quite a bit to combat the spread of radical Islam under his presidency – including nobbling Bin Laden.

    OT, I see the thieving vicar of Barnsley has got his comeuppance.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-33690041

  4. barriejohn says:

    Speaking of Putin, take a look at this:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33684831

    Is there a Society of Criminals And Back Scratchers?

  5. Stuart H. says:

    Judging from the comments of Graham and the Kenyan ‘Bishop’ I would have thought some closer auditing of foreign aid was in order. There is no way it is reaching the genuinely needy if those pigs have their snouts in the trough. Certainly, from observing East Europe, I know SP doesn’t work in any country unless it sees a way to tap into the development aid budget of the EU and similar donors.
    Smaller countries and offshore jurisdictions already seem to do this better than, say, UK, US or EU, by the way, as a side-effect of obligatory money-laundering checks (imposed, ironically enough, by countries where fraud is almost a normal way of life).
    I would also have thought that the efforts of some churches to push for overseas aid to be distributed via church networks as a means of avoiding openly corrupt governments needs challenging (Christian Aid, Tearfund…). Surely there should be be compulsory checks to prevent the diversion of government aid towards groups which propogate hate, and a way of reporting such suspicions to government agencies, including the Charities Commission and whoever controls a country’s overseas aid budget.

  6. Trevor Blake says:

    “The churches in Kenya know what the Bible says about homosexuality .”

    It doesn’t say post on Facebook about it. The bible says kill homosexuals. Christians who fail to do so but claim to follow the bible are liars.

    Christianity prefers lying and murder over truth and peace. It is not a moral code worth following.

  7. barriejohn says:

    Stuart H: I couldn’t agree more, especially from what I got to know as an evangelical Christian. However, the following stupidity surely takes the proverbial Hob Nob!

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/07/26/christian-group-will-deliver-bibles-to-north-korea-even-though-citizens-can-be-killed-for-having-one/

  8. Broga says:

    I suppose the odious Franklin must be the son of Billy of crusades infamy. They are into a great scam and they intend to milk the suckers to the limit. I used to know someone who “went forward” in Billy’s conversion process. He told me his conversion “lasted a week tops but it was probably less than that.”

    He went to see Billy because he was so famous and he got carried away by the group mania.

  9. barriejohn says:

    Broga: There is another son, who also heads a Christian charity, despite alcoholism, marital infidelity and financial shenanigans.

    http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/1999/december6/9te026.html

    Of course, it can’t have been easy for them growing up in the shadow of a father as revered, and even idolized, as Billy Graham – a father whom they must hardly have really known (Ruth brought them up, and was not sparing with the switch!). Your friend had a lucky escape; others “went forward” and found (as I have said before) that they had signed up to a lot of things of which they were unaware: opposition to divorce, homosexuality, abortion, etc, and belief in creationism and “verbal inspiration”, to name but a few!

  10. Stuart H. says:

    Barriejohn – seen that scam before. There’s a group which used to ‘smuggle’ bibles behind Iron Curtain (actually, they never had to, as the countries involved regarded it as free, if naff, English language practice material), now seems to aim at Muslim countries apart from a few Eastern Orthodox monopolies. Their scam works by making a few converts, waiting for an arrest (by which time their missionary has fled the country), begging for funds and moving on to another country rather than helping the victims with court cases.

  11. Har Davids says:

    Is the number of 38.000 churches correct? If so, religion over there is a booming business, with suckers born every minute. I wonder what the net worth of these religious leaders is.

  12. barriejohn says:

    Stuart H: Yes – I was well acquainted with all that business, and the adulation accorded to those who “smuggled” Bibles behind the Iron Curtain. I knew some of them personally. One always made a big thing about how he wore several layers of clothing when he visited “the saints” in Czechoslovakia, but was there really a prohibition on taking clothing into the country? I was never quite sure about that. Christians are extremely gullible, and seem easily swept along with anything emotional or “romantic”. Do you remember “Brother Andrew” (all highly secret and very exciting, of course), who must have made a fortune from his books and other writings. As you say, they’ve moved on to Muslims now – “plus ca change” and all that!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_van_der_Bijl

  13. Broga says:

    @barriejohn: I enjoyed, if that’s the word, the Ned Graham link. Ned said he spent an inappropriate amount of time with two members of his staff but “there was no sexual contact.” I wonder what they were doing?

    His wife seems to have had a terrible time with him before the divorce. But isn’t it lovely that she still prayed for him?

    The USA spawn these religious groups like frogs (now sadly disappearing) produce frog spawn.

  14. Cali Ron says:

    @Har Davids: Poverty, corruption, lack of education and desperation make fertile ground for religious indoctrination. Needy people respond to the “message of hope” that religious proselytizers use to suck them in. I recall missionaries talking about the “war for the hearts of people in (insert country name here)”, taking the message of god’s love to them. And of course, all’s fair in love and war. Bear in mind these people are lying, manipulators so I’d take that 38,000 number with a very big grain of salt.

    @barriejohn”: The Graham family are iconic christian hypocrites, using daddy’s name and dubious reputation to keep the cash flowing in

    @Broga: I prefer those green, wart covered, slimy frogs to any of the many christian groups any day.

  15. 1859 says:

    There are, as I recall, ten christian commandments – and not one of them says homosexuality is a sin. Why are these religious bastards so fanatical about what people do with their genitals! They truly belong inside a mental hospital.

  16. John the Drunkard says:

    Well, at least it wasn’t Dawkins speaking up against bigotry. Then we’d have half the atheiosphere grousing about ‘privileged white men disrespecting the culture of….’

    ‘We do not want … to accept[…] that which is against our faith and culture.’

    Isn’t that what the Confederates used to say about THEIR ‘faith and culture?’

  17. Laura Roberts says:

    Obama may be a corporate shill, but once in awhile he does something I applaud. Amazing how the Abrahamic religions somehow feel they are being targeted whenever someone advocates equal rights, whether for non-whites, women or LGBT.

    @Newspaniard: from your post you sound like someone being manipulated. If I were you, I’d examine my news sources more critically.

  18. Stephen Mynett says:

    Har Davids and Cali Ron, I read a very disturbing report a year or so back about Kinshasa in DR Congo where there are more churches than schools and by a vast amount. Business is booming for the local preachers, especially in exorcism and witch-finding, the cost of an exorcism works out to be about three-months salary for the average person.

    Those who pay most though are the children who have been identified as witches, many are homeless having been thrown out by families who could not afford to have them “cured”, a great number have been tortured to extract confessions of witchcraft and the exorcisms vary in the amount of trauma they cause but are generally unpleasant at best.

    One of the most sickening pictures I saw was of a badly scarred young girl who had had polythene wrapped around her arm and then set on fire to get her to confess to witchcraft. I have told this to some christians but, like many weaselling apologists, they blame African superstition and ignore the fact that these preachers have been trained by Western evangelicals and, in some cases, are western evangelicals.

  19. Neil says:

    Any statement that begins, as Bishop Karaoke’s does, with ‘we believe’ is, as far as I’m concerned, immediately invalid. All it means is ‘we’ve no evidence for this, but we’re gonna say it anyway…’

    As far as Christians dismissing atrocities in Africa, Stephen, you’ll be pleased to know that Stephen ‘Birdshit for brains’ Green excuses them by saying there ‘really is a problem with witchcraft in Africa.’

  20. barriejohn says:

    Great blog, Neil!

    http://rejectingjesus.com/

    Yesterday Jesus’ Good News was about the coming Kingdom (Luke 4.43).
    Today it’s about eternal damnation…

    Yesterday Jesus invited people to join God’s Kingdom on Earth (Matthew 6.10; 13.43 etc).
    Today he’s made to invite everyone to Heaven.

    Yesterday his Good News was only for his own people: ‘I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel’ (Matthew 15:24).
    Today he says anybody can go to Heaven so long as they believe the magic formula. Oh, and aren’t gay.

    Bible students know about all this confusion and contradiction, yet evangelists simplify the New Testament and present a “gospel” which comes from their own imagination. Even then the argument continues: Do people have to “repent” to be saved? Are “sinful” people capable of “coming to Christ” of their own accord? What about people who have never heard the Gospel? What about those who believe and then “fall away”? They all have different ideas, and can find Bible verses (naturally) to back them up, yet “God is not the author of confusion” (I Cor. 14:33)!