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Mo cartoon event sparks a war of words

Mo cartoon event sparks a war of words

A war of words has broken out in the UK over a planned exhibition in London of cartoons of the ‘prophet’ Mohammed.

On the one side is the exhibition’s organiser, Anne Marie Waters, above, and her supporters, and on the other is a far-left outfit called Hope Not Hate, which this week issued a report accusing Waters of  being part of a conspiracy to ignite a civil war in the UK between far-right factions and Muslims.

Nick Lowles

Nick Lowles

According this Guardian report, Nick Lowles, Hope Not Hate’s Chief Executive, said:

Our concern is that the event is intended to provoke a reaction from British Muslims. It is not about freedom of speech, it is about incitement. The authorities cannot allow this event to go ahead. Communities shouldn’t rise to their bait, we must stand together as a show of strength.

Waters, on Sharia Watch, yesterday described  the Hope Not Hate report as “a little bundle of lies”.

Groups like Hope Not Hate are incredibly sinister and dangerous for quite a few reasons. So utterly convinced are they that their totalitarian vision of the world is what’s best for all of us, they do not do not question the morality of activities they undertake.

Their sole consideration is how on much damage they can inflict on to those who disagree with them. Disagreeing with a leftist vision for the world is an unpardonable sin, as anti-Islamist, communist activist Maryam Namazie knows well.

Waters resigned from the National Secular Society last year when she became a prospective parliamentary candidate for UKIP.

Enter a group of Labour MPs who have called for an investigation into a far-right website – The Gates of Vienna – which has been “heavily” promoting the exhibition, due to take place on September 18 at a central London location (entry fee £35.00).

Organisers say among those attending will be Geert Wilders, the right-wing Dutch politician who has expressed controversial views on Islam.

The MPs – Ian Austin, Ruth Smeeth, Imran Hussain, Paula Sherriff, Wes Streeting and John Cryer – have written to the Director of Public Prosecutions, Alison Saunders, asking her to consider if the site’s owners are breaching the law. The letter reads:

It is clear that these are the ideas that inspired Norwegian mass murderer Anders Breivik and as such it is deeply troubling that they are available to inspire others. We would urge you to investigate the Gates of Vienna website and take appropriate action if anyone involved is deemed to be promoting terrorism and civil disorder.

Austin told the Guardian he would also be raising the issue with Theresa May.

I am shocked that the Gates of Vienna website can publish articles promoting a strategy for civil war. At a time when we should all be concerned about terrorism it is imperative that the police investigate this website and those behind the calls for civil war and I’ll be raising this with the home secretary.

He added that the exhibition of Mo cartoons was:

Clearly [intended] to provoke a reaction from British Muslims and we must all ensure this does not happen

A spokesman for the Metropolitan police said an appropriate policing plan would be put in place for the event but would not comment further.

Hat tip: Asad Abbas and Antony Niall.

33 responses to “Mo cartoon event sparks a war of words”

  1. Broga says:

    Bloody hell! That’s a right can of worms.

  2. Hmmmm says:

    Controversial views on Islam? What..like islam is a religion of peace … like islam is trying for consensus, inclusion, integration, and to embrace secular values. Islam is a self loathing, jumped up, dangerous, destructive anihilistic religiopolitical dogma with a fucking huge hateful jealous chip on its shoulder, that has set its face on the destruction of everything of worth and destruction of itself in order that kuffars can go to hell and that every sorry arsed male muslim can get 72 virgins to abuse in paradise. Well I say it’s time for the west to teach the islamic fundamentalist world, ie all muslims, that they are heading for total and utter humiliation by morally and technologically superior civilisation who with the push of a button can consign islam to the pages of history.

  3. Broga says:

    @Hmmmm: That sounds about right. But on translation point I think the virgins is now accepted by scholars as a mistranslation for raisins. So instead of 72 sexy virgins they get raisins. I don’t think raisins is going to be an entirely adequate replacement for the sexy virgins. Some disappointment ahead there and it lasts for eternity.

  4. Rob Andrews says:

    @Broga:

    According to a history channel documentary you’re right about the raisins thing. The vowel marks (the signs that look like accent marks) were placed at different points than on standard accepted texts, on some newly discovered manuscripts found in Yemen (I think) This slight difference changed Allah’s words to “raisins “.

    Kinda pathetic when you think of it. But let’s hope the new translations gets around; maybe it’ll cool the jets on rhese young guys.

  5. Broga says:

    @Rob Andrew: Indeed, raisins won’t quite cut it for these testosterone fuelled young men. Somehow dims the enthusiasm for blowing oneself, and others, up.

  6. zombiehunter says:

    I really don’t get why so many left wing/so called liberals are so happy to align themselves with some of the worst aspects of the muslim community, it really is a case of turkeys voting for Christmas.

    they are happy to tar all Christians with the same brush but when it comes to nutjobs in islam they are the first to go “oh they’re not all like that it’s just a few extremists blahblahblah”

  7. Angela_K says:

    Lowles is revolting quisling, an appeaser of islam and just like muslims believes there is a one way street from the far left when it comes to free speech.

  8. Ivan says:

    @Broga

    Putting aside the translation issues, I also believe that the gender of the virgins is not specified……

  9. RussellW says:

    Apparently Lowles and his supporters in the UK didn’t initially realise that Gates of Vienna is an American site, I’d like to see them try to suppress free speech in the U.S.

    Whose fault is it if Muslims react violently to depictions of Muhammed?Not Gates of Vienna, not ‘far right’ politicians and not the counter jihad movement. Muslims never seem to be responsible for their own behaviour.

    Angela K,

    Yes, perhaps members of the loony left think that they can use Muslims as useful idiots in achieving their Stalinist paradise, when the smoke clears they’ll discover that they’re the ones who have duped and the that mullahs rule.

  10. RussellW says:

    Oops , “have been duped”

  11. John the Drunkard says:

    I might not want to vote for Geert Wilders, or buy a used car from him, or treat Pamela Gellar as a reliable source of information etc.

    But when the ‘progressives’ are lined up to support theocratic fascism and exterminationist anti-Semitism, terms like ‘left’ and ‘right’ have become meaningless.

  12. asquith says:

    The “raisins” claim has been contested and, I think, refuted:
    http://wikiislam.net/wiki/72_Virgins
    Why would you want a virgin anyway, when she doesn’t know what she’s doing and you have to be gentle with her and can’t get down to any serious business for quite a long time?

    Is it because, like kiddie-fiddling Mo, they can’t handle real women?

  13. Hmmmm says:

    There are other ways now for Muslim men to get shagged..without having to murder a kuffar first.
    Join Isis and dupe teeny female Virgin retards to leave their comfy euro homes to become comfort girls.
    Seek asylum or become an illegal in say Sweden then go round molesting and raping the blondes of your choice.
    Seek asylum or become an illegal in say Oxford or Rotherham and pick up and groom vulnerable underage kuffar girls for the purposes of gang rape.
    And if Isis started tossing all those muslims onanists who wank themselves cross eyed over internet porn sites there would none left to sire the next generation of evil bastards

  14. asquith says:

    Yes, and how strange that they’re “offended” by pictures of Mo but not offended by slaughtering non-Muslims and fucking kids.

  15. Hmmmm says:

    I can’t understand why, if heavenly paradise is so wonderful, the pious don’t kill themselves right now to fast track out of this ungodly life of evil and temptation. This would have the added benefit of getting them out of my face. What a wonderful world this would be without them. Is it because they don’t have the courage of their convictions … Because deep down they know there is no god? Is that it?

  16. Laura Roberts says:

    This is another one of those “WTF?” moments. Personally I don’t give a rip about Mo cartoons (though I do enjoy “Jesus and Mo” comics). If some group wants to sponsor an exhibit, go for it. If someone else thinks they would be offended by the pictures, then they should take measures to ensure they don’t accidently buy a ticket and walk into the exhibit. All this excessive whining and posturing is a waste of everyone’s time and energy.

    @RussellW: “I’d like to see them try to suppress free speech in the U.S.”
    The U.S. media are so impotent and so terrified of the establishment that suppressing free speech there would be redundant.

  17. Hmmmm says:

    Or in the case of islamists is it because they enjoy murdering infidels and raping underage kuffar girls and they know there are none of these in paradise? Is this life to them a kind of gap year of bloodletting and debauchery before settling down to an eternal career of boredom and obedience?

  18. Great Satan says:

    What nasty little quislings Nick Lowles and those Labour Mps are, how about they represent the wishes of their indiginous constituents and do something about the muslim grooming gangs who have been abusing their children, and those who practise female genital mutilation ?
    Anne Marie Waters is a very brave lady, and I for one hope to attend the event in London – we must not cave in to the demands of islamo-fascists.

  19. Graham Martin-Royle says:

    This is another example of victim blaming. All the exhibition does is show cartoons. If anyone riots over that, blame them, not the organisers of the exhibition.

  20. Newspaniard says:

    Hope not Hate and Unite Against Fascism are both the reverse of what their titles suggest. They are simply left wing fascist organizations who use thuggery against anyone who disagrees with their views a bit like Stalinist/Putinist Russia.

  21. Broga says:

    Reading about the 72 virgins I note that they are described as having “appetizing vaginas”. The plot thickens here. Is this a hint at the delights of cunnilingus? Is cunnilingus permitted in Islam or are they strictly missionary position. Could the testosterone fuelled lusting lads be led astray even in Paradise?

  22. AgentCormac says:

    I think Broga got it spot on in his opening post – this is a can of worms. Apologists like Nick Lowles live by a dogma that is every bit as intransigent, blinkered and dangerous as those he purports to defend and should be told in no uncertain terms where to stuff his obdurate ideology. And while there shouldn’t even be an eyebrow raised about an exhibition of cartoons, if it’s hijacked by those with violence in mind then that’s just as bad as it being closed down by threats and intimidation.

    Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

  23. AgentCormac says:

    Completely OT, but did anybody else spot this? An ultra-Orthodox Jew stabbed six people at the Jerusalem Gay Pride parade yesterday. And apparently the bastard has done it before.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-33726634

  24. Brian Jordan says:

    @Asquity
    Wikiislam says “Additionally, for someone to accept this “72 raisins” theory, they would also have to accept that the Qur’an was not written by Allah or revealed to the Prophet Muhammad in Arabic during the 7th century,”
    And the problem is?

  25. Brian Jordan says:

    Oops, pardon fingers ; @asquith, of course

  26. Broga says:

    @Brian Jordan: I think the 72 raisins as a reward is just as plausible as 72 virgins as a reward. Or indeed just as plausible as any of the dotty beliefs they insist are true. The 72 raisins has the virtue of making them less attractive as a reward to potential killers than nubile virgins they fancy. Unless, of course, some of them are hugely enthusiastic about eating raisins.

    The debate (and I accept I am culpable) has descended into the ridiculous. This is entirely fitting in view of the ridiculous beliefs we are discussing. I note, from my growing knowledge of virgins in Paradise, that the virgins only get to be shagged by one man. So discrimination against women continues even beyond the grave.

    Have the virgins all had FGM? I read that FGM causes lifelong pain and often causes intercourse to be agonising. Have these important issues been addressed by Islamic scholars and, if so, what do they say?

  27. gedediah says:

    “Communities shouldn’t rise to their bait, we must stand together as a show of strength”.

    Exactly. It should be allowed to go ahead and muslims should ignore it like every other reasonable person will.

  28. Peterat says:

    And to borrow a quote from Hitch:”What the devout Muslim (male) forgets is that if he is granted 72 virgins in paradise for engaging in jihad, he also receives 72 mother-in-law.” Not my idea of paradise!

  29. Stuart H. says:

    £35 admission?
    Probably the only funny thing about the whole mess.
    Planned by clumsy halfwits, opposed by the kind of mirror-opposite plonkers who wouldn’t have jobs without them. If you are serious about either opposing censorship or stopping racism there are far better things to be doing.
    Just forget it. These fools deserve each other, the rest of society doesn’t deserve either of them.

  30. Great Satan says:

    Stuart H – I would not call the organisers “clumsy half wits”, I’ve heard Anne Marie speak and found her to be most intelligent – I’m glad at least some people are making a stand !

  31. […] On the one side is the exhibition’s organiser, Anne Marie Waters, above, and her supporters, and on the other is a far-left outfit called Hope Not Hate, which this week issued a report accusing Waters of being part of a conspiracy to ignite a civil war in the UK between far-right factions and Muslims.  Read more –  http://freethinker.co.uk/2015/07/30/mo-cartoon-event-sparks-a-war-of-words/ […]