FFRF challenges judge’s bizarre ruling

FFRF challenges judge’s bizarre ruling

The Freedom From Religion Foundation has filed a complaint against a judge who ordered a man to marry his girlfriend and write out a Bible verse 25 a day.

Judge Randall Rogers’ bizarre order was directed at 21-year-old Josten Bundy, pictured above with 19-year-old Elizabeth Jaynes.

On July 2, Rogers gave Bundy 30 days to marry Jaynes or face 15 days in jail for pleading guilty to misdemeanor assault.

Bundy admitted punching Jaynes’ ex-boyfriend twice in the jaw for “saying disrespectful things” about her.

The probation terms also required Bundy to write out a Bible verse 25 times a day: “If a man digs a pit, he will fall into it.” — Proverbs 26:27).

Jaynes said:

We figured he’d get probation but were surprised about the other conditions, especially the marriage.

The Freedom From Religion Foundation said on Friday that it had filed the complaint against the Smith County Court-at-Law judge a day earlier with the Texas State Commission on Judicial Conduct in Austin.

Jaynes said she told her parents about what happened in court and her father was very angry. He told them they didn’t have to go through with it but they did, getting married at City Hall on July 20.

Elizabeth’s father, Kenneth Jaynes said:

I was really upset. Judge Rogers stepped into my family and tried to tell them what to do without any regard for me or anything. This isn’t his decision.

I told them they didn’t have to do this, but they were afraid. They are young and they didn’t know that they had any other options.

24 responses to “FFRF challenges judge’s bizarre ruling”

  1. Laura Roberts says:

    I wonder if this same judge would have ordered marriage if it were a gay couple?

    And how stupid is that quotation? Sounds like something Andy Dwyer (Parks & Rec) would write (“I fell into the pi-iii-it…”) 😉

  2. Broga says:

    I wonder what was going through the judge’s brain (if anything was?) when he came up with this bizarre ruling. I suppose he thought he was being inventive in imposing his dotty religious opinions on this couple. There are hundreds of quotations from the bible that I’m sure he manages to ignore.

  3. Trevor Blake says:

    Forced marriages are a species of human trafficking. This judge has surely ended his career. Hundreds of news sites are having a laugh at the situation and the FFRF but only atheists are morally and legally in the right here. Mockery, well, I may have said unkind things about religion once or twice and so mockery I can endure. The hubris of a judge who conducts human trafficking from the bench and adds a childish theocratic sting to it should be met with mockery and great financial penalty.

    Might I propose loss of career in 30 days or prison?

  4. Stephen Mynett says:

    Trevor, perhaps during his 30 days in the slammer he should be made to copy out Karl Marx’s Das Kapital, or any other book that would “appeal” to his religionist sentiments in a similar way.

  5. shane tyson says:

    But if this was a Muslim dictate I wonder how many of the Left-wing Liberals who post on this site would criticise it?

  6. AgentCormac says:

    @shane tyson
    I think you’d find we all would. Have you actually read any of the threads on here before?

  7. shane tyson says:

    You appear very gentle in your approach to Islam tbh AC

  8. AgentCormac says:

    Really? Then you definitely haven’t read many of the threads or the comments on them, Shane.

  9. shane tyson says:

    I repeat, you are very gentle on Islam, I read everything on here, and as a group you are Left-wing Liberals, with a few exceptions!

  10. jay says:


    On quite a few’liberal ‘ sites, that observation would be correct. This group is a lot more level headed though.

  11. L.Long says:

    I would have chosen the most hate filled bigoted verses.
    Then schemed with the girl to have her refuse to consent to marry and told the judge I can’t marry her as it is against the law to marry with out consent!!!

  12. Vanity Unfair says:

    Josten Bundy clearly has anger management problems (Is that the currently acceptable phrase?) and a judge wants to force a woman to marry him. How long, I wonder, before he appears on assault charges again: this time against his wife?
    Anyway, I do not think that either part of the sentence is legally sound under English Common Law so USA laws will probably trend to that direction too. The lawyers will love this case.

  13. Rob Andrews says:


    I can’t figure out why most liberals would be gentle on Islam or any other religion. Maybe you mean just being ‘polite and civil’. But most of the 1960s liberals that I grew up with are deeply atheistic.

    We also support gay rights; women’s rights;and no censorship of media. We certainly know Islam doesn’t.

    “I’m not convinced that faith can move mountains, but I’ve seen what it can do to skyscraperes”. –

  14. Angela_K says:

    I’d take the 15 days in Jail rather than bow to this religious nutter of a judge. I look forward to hearing this judgment is illegal and therefore void.

  15. AgentCormac says:

    Having read everything on here, perhaps you could produce of few examples which illustrate how you think we are so soft on Islam? Try typing the word ‘Islam’ into the Search area at the top of this page. However, I guarantee you’ll find little in the way of sympathy for that particualr brand of religion and a plethora of threads which prove you wrong.

  16. asquith says:

    Who would win in a cage fight between Shane and Iftikhar?

  17. Barry Duke says:

    As the subject of Islam somehow crept into this thread, I thought I’d share this amusing snippet from a site detailing censorship in apartheid South Africa:

    1986: ACTAG (the Anti-Censorship Action Group) is formed and there is a serious request from the head of the Islamic Council in SA to the PCB [Publications Control Board] to request that the Bible be banned, due to the “lurid and pornographic” passages in the Song of Solomon.

    Hop over to;wap2 and see what censors can do when they are given unlimited powers.

  18. Stephen Mynett says:

    Why the Song of Solomon, the whole book is full of porn and violence, although to the Islamic Council I expect the violence against women was acceptable, they probably saw it as biblical humour.
    Mary Whitehouse would have enjoyed working for ACTAG.

  19. 1859 says:

    Is ‘left-wing liberal’ a new type of insult?.

    The Song of Solomon is great. When you read it as a piece if literature it’s worse than DH Lawrence! All full of ‘pillars’ and ‘apple breasts’! As a teenager I used to work up quite a sweat reading it – sadly those days are over!

    Iftikhar would drown Shane in a whirlpool of meaningless rhetoric.

  20. barriejohn says:

    I think that some people are disappointed to find that a site is not “anti-Muslim” per se, but most of us here are opposed to ALL forms of irrationality, and in my case that applies equally to political ideology. I know that I have mentioned this before, but when I was with the Brethren (many meetings open for all the male members to participate), there was considerable embarrassment over the “Song of Solomon”. When a passage was read out, “offending” verses would simply be omitted to save the ladies’ blushes, leading to little children asking later: “Why did Uncle Ken miss out the bit about…?” Red faces all round!

  21. Stephen Mynett says:

    Good point Barriejohn, we have had a few here that seem only to want to have a go at Islam. Most have been trolls although a couple hung around a while. Many are too stupid to realise the Christian religion is as disgusting as Islam, the majority of Christians may have given up killing, although JWs still allow their children to bleed to death and other groups refuse all medicine for their children – both are forms of murder. Genocide was a way of life in the Old Testament, although I doubt many Christians have read that or the New Testament.

  22. barriejohn says:

    Stephen Mynett: I knew many Brethren who refused to have their children immunized because “the Lord will look after his own”, etc. If they had had rational reasons for doubting a government health programme that would have been a different matter! And regarding irrational beliefs, did others read the following?

  23. Broga says:

    When I was at school we had a local vicar come once a week to teach us divinity. One week he asked us to suggest, when he next came, any bit of the bible he would like us to study and discuss. He suggested Corinthians 13 (hope I got that right – “songs of men and of angels etc”)as particularly appropriate. The overwhelming preference was for the Song of Solomon. The discussion was fun for a short time but he soon decided to move on as it all got a bit steamy.