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‘Unhinged’ Trump wants Muslims kept out of the US

‘Unhinged’ Trump wants Muslims kept out of the US

Donald Trump’s rival Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush described Trump, above, as ‘unhinged’ after he called for:

A total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.

According to the BBC, there has been a storm of condemnation from Trump’s fellow Republicans after the presidential candidate called for a ban on Muslims entering America.

Former US Vice-President Dick Cheney said:

It goes against everything we stand for and believe in.

UK Prime Minister joined the fray saying that Trump’s statement was:

Divisive, unhelpful and quite simply wrong.

But Trump garnered loud cheers when he repeated his ban pledge at a South Carolina rally hours after his initial statement.

Trump said many Muslims nursed a “hatred” towards America. His statement to reporters on Monday said polling by the Center for Security Policy, a conservative think-tank, suggested that 25 percent of Muslims in the US believed violence against America was justified.

Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. Where this hatred comes from and why, we will have to determine.
Until we [do]… our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in jihad.

His campaign manager said the ban would apply to “everybody” – would-be immigrants and tourists. But Trump told Fox News it would “not apply to people living in the country”, adding that Muslims serving in the US military would be allowed to “come home”.

Nihad Awad, National Executive Director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations was also outraged:

These are not just words … Trump and Carson’s mainstreaming of Islamophobia in the election is inciting discrimination, hate crimes, violent attacks against Muslims and mosques. This inflammatory rhetoric is putting the lives of millions of American Muslims and their children in danger.

Ibraham Hooper, Director of the Council, added:

We’re entering into the realm of the fascist now.

Trump’s statement was delivered as the US comes to terms with its deadliest terror attack since 9/11.
Last week a Muslim couple, believed to have been radicalised, opened fire and killed 14 people at a health centre in San Bernardino.

Meanwhile, the Democratic mayor of St Petersburg, Florida, announced to Twitter fanfare that he was:

Hereby barring Donald Trump from entering St Petersburg until we fully understand the dangerous threat posed by all Trumps.

The UN refugee agency UNHCR said it was concerned that the rhetoric was putting an “incredibly important” resettlement programme for vulnerable Syrian refugees at risk.

Spokeswoman Melissa Fleming said remarks not just by Trump but by a number of US state governors could undermine a programme designed to help the most vulnerable refugees.

The US currently accepts several thousand refugees for resettlement each year, following a rigorous security screening which lasts around two years.

25 responses to “‘Unhinged’ Trump wants Muslims kept out of the US”

  1. Broga says:

    Trump should be a joke. He isn’t. He appeals to millions of Americans. Who else would be ban? Atheists? Not too long ago he had all Mexicans down as criminals. At present he looks like the favourite for the Republican candidate for President. Trump with his finger on the nuclear button is one hell of a prospect.

  2. David Anderson says:

    Of course, those God fearing Christian white supremasists who have murdered far more than 14 people are not terrorists but mentaly unstable loners.

    Here’s some news for the conservative think-tank (oxymoron?) Centre for Security Policy. As was predicted by a member of Roosevelt’s government,, (can’t think of his name at the moment), the USA has been hated by many countries in the world for their completely unnecessary action of dropping atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Since then I should think that there are many others you could add to the list who would think that violence against America was justified.

  3. barriejohn says:

    According to BBC News, this will “play well” with evangelical Christian voters! Simple, God-fearing folk like these, I presume:

    https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2015/12/06/the-dumbest-christmas-card-ever/

  4. Stuart H. says:

    I presume he won’t be pushing for Saudis using his poxy Scottish golf clubs to be asked to leave any time soon.

  5. Newspaniard says:

    Let us look at the list of, outraged.
    CAIR, the unindicted terrorist affiliate and supporter.
    The UNHCR which has a majority of muslim members and doesn’t allow non-muslims to claim refugee status.
    Various politicians who want to get their names in the papers, most of whom have their fingers crossed behind their backs.
    Anyone who makes a practical suggestion as to how to stem the invasion of these death cultists is automatically branded, racist, fascist and/or islamaphobe (a terrorist invented word).

    It would seem that those supporters of Trump are none of the above, which means the remainder: most of the “common” people. It’s a pity that their votes can’t be nullified.

  6. AgentCormac says:

    Good grief, barriejohn – that card you linked to is almost as insane as the woman who comissioned it and the many people who no doubt think it was a good idea!

  7. barriejohn says:

    AgentCormac: There’s actually an update to that story, which makes it even more disturbing, if such a thing is possible.

    https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2015/12/08/michele-fiore-defends-her-gun-totin-christmas-card-adds-that-she-wants-to-shoot-all-syrian-refugees/

    What pity that she didn’t marry Donald Trump!

  8. L.Long says:

    I have heard various bad things about Hillary, and Bernie is a dirty commie!
    But both of these are 100000000000000 times better than anything the rePUKEians have to offer!!! They are all flat out crazy!

  9. barriejohn says:

    L.Long: To be fair, many of them have condemned Trump – including Dick Cheney, though the latter’s suggestion regarding military action in the ME will not win universal approbation!

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/12/08/dick-cheney-slams-trumps-muslim-entry-ban-and-suggests-u-s-re-invade-middle-east/

  10. Broga says:

    @barriejohn: What runs through that woman’s comments is her sense that America and Americans are superior. They are entitled to rule the world; she is entitled to murder (shoot in the head) desperate refugees; she can make the rules.

    With all respect to our American friends on this site, I have no wish to live in the USA. I don’t want to be surrounded by people who insist that their opinions (especially religious) must be accepted. I think I live in a tolerant, civilised society where religion has little impact and is rarely discussed.

  11. AgentCormac says:

    @barriejohn
    Unbelievable (but then again maybe not). How Fiore squares a comment such as ‘I think giving firearms as a present and getting firearms as a present is a great present’ with the supposed xtian christmas values of ‘love on earth and peace to all men’ is utterly beyond me. But then, they do love to make these things up as they go along, don’t they?! Oh, yes – and they are deeply, deeply stupid.

  12. AgentCormac says:

    @Broga
    Even though I have travelled far and wide in the USA and met some wonderful people there, I heartily agree. Irritating though these things may be, we’re incredibly lucky that all we really have to put up with in Britain is ‘Thought For The Day’ and irrelevant idiots like Hutton and deluded attention-seekers such as Andrea Minichiello Williams. Even when he was our PM, Tony Blair’s conversion to the dark side hardly made much news. I have a feeling that if a US President converted to Rome there would be rioting on the streets. (Cali Ron, etc. – please tell me if I’m wrong.)

  13. jay says:

    There is not a single major candidate that is even remotely acceptable.

    Time to vote third party as “none of the above”

  14. Broga says:

    @AgentCormac: I have only been in the USA for five weeks. Like you I met some really friendly people who were a pleasure to meet. But there was another side where I was staying: people raising the American flag and ceremoniously lowering it every day. No idle ceremony. They really did think the USA was the only country worth a damn.

    Religion was every where. Preachers on TV blatantly promising God’s help for money: the more you give the more God helps. Racism was open. On television the UK was rarely mentioned compared to France and Germany. So much for the fantasy that we are America’s best friends or whatever the phrase is. Unlike in the UK the evidence of guns was clear and they were displayed casually. In the UK there are checks before you can buy one and they have to be kept in a locked cabinet.

    And yet I also met people whose open handed generosity to a stranger was touching. I stayed for a time in Las Vegas and that was an experience that (unlike many who are sniffy about it) I found memorable and thrilling. All this was more than 20 years ago.

  15. John the Drunkard says:

    Gee, now Farook and spouse were motivated by Hiroshima? Good thing they didn’t know about the Rape of Nanking!

    Yes, there are Islamists who hate the United States almost as much as Westboro Baptist does. And for the same damn’ reasons: God told them to.

  16. Great Satan says:

    I don’t usually agree with Trump, but he is right on this one, and is actually being quite reserved, Islam itself is a totalitarian political ideology incompatable with western civilised democratic values, and all the leftists can do when presented with examples of widespread muslim bloodletting and human rights abuses is to scratch around for one or two example of christian nutjobs attacking family planning clinics.

  17. 1859 says:

    Put the two pictures side-by-side – Trump and Fury. Are we handing the future of mankind into the hands of such Neanderthals? President D. Trump – Sports Personality T. Fury? I don’t know whether to laugh, cry or piss my pants……………

  18. Broga says:

    Fury has the educational development of a young child. He says the bible, “God’s word”, condemns homosexuality. When asked where the bible says that he replies, “It is in there somewhere.” He is a “devout Roman Catholic.” He admits he has zero education so he won’t have read “The God Delusion.”

    Ideally he should be ignored for his stupid comments but that isn’t going to happen. What he does have are boxing skills and physical courage and an ability to bear pain to an extent most of us cannot imagine.

  19. David Anderson says:

    I suspect that John the Drunkard’s snark was aimed at me but I did not suggest that the motivation of Farook and spouse had anything to do with Hiroshima. I was responding to the statement about people “hatred” towards America. I have no idea what the motivation of Farook and spouse was but apparently John the Drunkard does.

    When I was travelling the world in the merchant navy I encountered hatred in some surprising places merely for the fact of being British. Not all acts of violence are inspired by religion.

  20. christine myers says:

    Would Trumps idea save the innocent hardworking muslims and everyone else in America. The people of America have a right to feel safe
    in their country.

  21. Cali Ron says:

    Wow, hold on there. Please don’t mistake Trump and his supporters of being representative of all of Americans. Remember, that although Trump is polling at a little below 30% (varies depending on which poll), that’s 30% of Republicans who are only 25% of American voters. That’s less than 10% of American voters. He has definitely captured the conspiracy theorists, haters and gun nut voters, most of whom reside in “red” states that have consistently lower educational levels than the other states.

    They are a deluded lot, mostly evangelicals so easily swayed by irrational statements devoid of facts. There are calmer, more sane Americans, but the media wants sensationalism and calm and sane isn’t sensational.

    Obviously Trump is an asshole of limited intelligence. When questioned on how he would prevents Muslims from entering the country he said “ask them”. That statement right there is the talk of a child, not an adult and certainly not somebody with presidential qualities. Of course any Muslim terrorists trying to get into America would just admit it and be denied entry. HA! Not only a stupid idea, but completely impossible to actually do. Mean while the Democrats are cheering him on knowing that he is dividing the Republican party and stands no chance of actually winning in a general election.

    Sadly, this is where American politics has sunken to, the bottom of a very dark and dirty barrel.

  22. Nogbad666 says:

    I’d like to know just how Trump would in practice keep Muslims out of America. How would an immigration officer know that the person in front of him at the desk was a Muslim?
    Would Trump’s government require all the other nations on earth to have a person’s religion listed on their passport? Can’t see that happening. Or perhaps demand that all Muslims have an Islamic Crescent stitched to their clothes?
    Would they ban all immigrants and visitors from “Muslim” countries? Indonesia is the world’s most populous Muslim country, but even there 20% are Christians, and a fair number in the eastern provinces Hindu or Buddhist. So banning all Indonesians, for example, would be a very crude measure. Is Nigeria a Muslim country?
    Perhaps ban all women wearing a headscarf, and all dark-skinned men with beards? Might work for the women, but what about the Chechens, other European converts, and any Muslim who doesn’t feel bound to have a beard?
    Well OK, then perhaps just ask them when they turn up at immigration “are you a Muslim?” then turn them away if they say “yes”. Or have a question on the immigration form “Are you Muslim?”, a bit like the one that says something like “Are you planning to enter the USA to carry out acts of terrorism?” I think the problems with that approach are obvious.
    So come on Donald, instead of being just a pompous windbag let’s have some detail about this would work.

  23. Graham says:

    So the press have declared that it is de rigueur to denigrate Mr Trump?
    Of all the wretches that express the vilest and most wicked of sentiments that Home Secretaries have banned from these shores – Trump’s suggestion of keeping Muslims out of the US pales into insignificance.

  24. Dennis says:

    As a TEXAN I deplore the current government in my state. L.Long I am a Bernie supporter and the only problem with him is his ability to govern even with a democratic congress. The same trouble that President Obama has had to deal with in his 8 years. If you think Bernie is a communist Read a speech given by President Eisenhower I believe in his second presidental run. Now that was communist. Sorry I did not get more information. This looks like stupid people really trying to ruin my constition. Fuck you trump.