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NY Muslim taxi driver told to keep his religion to himself

NY Muslim taxi driver told to keep his religion to himself

Tamsir Drammeh, inset above, has been fined $350 for refusing to allow a woman to ride alongside him in the front of his cab.

Drammeh, 64, played the religion card in his defence, claiming that Islam forbids him from being too close to a female stranger.

But city judge Laura Fieber didn’t buy his argument. She told the cabby he needs to keep his religion to himself when serving the public.

That his religion did not allow him to sit next to a woman is not an acceptable defence in an occupation that is operated to serve the public.

Of significance, respondent made it clear that the husband would be welcome in the front seat, while the wife/complainant would not be.

Fellow Muslims said on Friday that Drammeh’s excuse was a stretch. “There’s no such rule in Islam,” said the manager at his garage, J and I Maintenance Corp in Boerum Hill, Brooklyn, who refused to give his name. “There’s no such thing.”

Drammeh was at a taxi stand on Eighth Avenue when a family of four walked up. He opened the trunk from his seat so that the family could stow their luggage.

The husband and kids, 6 and 11, got into the back, and the mom went to the front passenger door, which Drammeh refused to unlock.

The woman asked whether there was a problem, and all Drammeh would say is that her husband could sit up front, but that she was not welcome.

The family snapped a photo of Drammeh’s medallion number and hailed a different cab.

The wife filed a complaint alleging sex discrimination, and Drammeh lost the case twice — once in a regular city hearing and again on appeal.

At his hearing, the driver claimed that the woman was belligerent and cursed him. He said he eventually and reluctantly invited her to sit up front.

Hossein Kamaly, a Middle Eastern studies professor at Columbia University, said Muslims often make up their own interpretations of the legitimate laws of Islam.

There are some Muslims who wouldn’t be comfortable with that and some who would. He’s an older man and probably an immigrant, so it’s closer to the way that he was brought up.

14 responses to “NY Muslim taxi driver told to keep his religion to himself”

  1. Trevor Blake says:

    “Hossein Kamaly, a Middle Eastern studies professor at Columbia University, said Muslims often make up their own interpretations of the legitimate laws of Islam.”

    Among those legitimate laws of Islam is the keeping of sex slaves, several of them if you like. “And if ye fear that ye will not deal fairly by the orphans, marry of the women, who seem good to you, two or three or four; and if ye fear that ye cannot do justice (to so many) then one (only) or (the captives) that your right hands possess. Thus it is more likely that ye will not do injustice.” (4:3) Another legitimate law of Islam is the mutilation and murder of those who ‘make war upon Allah (ie, who refuse to be Muslims and also refuse to pay the Muslim jizya tax): “The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom.” (5:33)

    Or does the Quran have nothing to do with the legitimate laws of Islam?

  2. AgentCormac says:

    While his actions are unacceptable, I actually feel sorry for Drammeh. Can you imagine being so indoctrinated with religious claptrap that you spend your entire life thinking it is somehow wrong to sit next to another human being?

  3. barriejohn says:

    Trevor Blake: Come! Come! I know from your previous comments that you realize that the Koran has as much to do with “the legitimate laws of Islam” (whatever that phrase actually means) as the Bible does with the “legitimate laws of Christianity”. In other words, as with all religions, they make it up as they go along!

  4. 1859 says:

    @Agent Cormac: Correct. But, of course, in his religion women are not human beings, they are belongings. And worse still, they are belongings with sexual desire, so the closer they sit to a man the more corrupting their influence. And if the man is tempted and lets his hands stray – well , we all know whose fault that is!

  5. Gerald says:

    This fuckwit does not realise that menstrual blood is the same damn stuff that verses through his veins. Complete and utter prick. He should wear some kind of personal protective equipment … Like an hermetically sealed all over high grade heavy duty polythene body bag with a burka type clear plastic viewing window. Frankly, if I hailed a cab and found it driven by a muslim I would hail another one if he gave me any islamic bullshit. I have gotten out of a cab before because of issues and would have no compunction about doing it again if necessary.

  6. SallyinMI says:

    But but…according to Hobby Lobby, religious beliefs are sacrosanct and trump US law. Or is that just for the pseudo-Christians?

  7. Tim Davies from Oz says:

    I hate religion as much as anybody here. I think the couple just saw the chance to victimize a muslim.How hard would it be to change seats and keep the peace? We’re not talking suicide bombers here.

  8. frank says:

    Wouldn’t such discrimination only apply to Muslim women?

    I feel sorry for anyone who has had such ideas burned into his head.

  9. Gerald says:

    Tim Davies … Behave.

  10. John the Drunkard says:

    Are there Hasidic or ‘Ultra-Orthodox’ New York cabbies who do the same? We’ve had a string of incidents where these twits have held up airline flight when they demanded segregated seating.

  11. Dennis says:

    foolish theists!

  12. Lucy1 says:

    @tim davies

    Whenever someone tries to treat a woman as in some way different in a dangerous way, potentially unclean, and refuses to shake hands or sit beside them, it is easy to say ‘oh well, no real harm done’. I guess from your name you are not a woman. (Forgive me if that is incorrect) Speaking as one, I have to tell you it is very degrading. Imagine holding out your hand to shake and it being refused, in case you are unclean.

    I always wonder how it would be seen if someone refused to touch or sit near a black person, in case they were unclean.

  13. Vanity Unfair says:

    Does that mean that Muslims know there are illegitimate laws of Islam?
    If so, what are they and why are they still laws?

    When I was being taught these things, it was always the case that a lady would be expected to ride in the back of a car (along with children) and a gentleman would take the front passenger seat if that was the only one left. (There are several sub-clauses for other circumstances.) The reason was that the front passenger seat was the most dangerous place to be in the event of a collision and definitely no place for a lady. I suppose the rules must have changed now that seat-belts are ubiquitous and the wearing of them compulsory.
    I don’t remember there being any religious reason.