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Tory Minister Stephen Crabb denies being homophobic

Tory Minister Stephen Crabb denies being homophobic

Tory leadership contender, evangelical Christian Stephen Crabb, has attacked ‘political opponents’ for spreading the ‘complete falsehood’ that he believes gay people are sinful and need treatment.

The Conservative Work and Pensions Secretary today told the BBC’s Today programme:

I don’t believe that being gay is a sin. I don’t believe it’s something to be cured. I’ve never said anything like that.

He also defended voting against gay marriage, saying his decision was based on a wish to protect religious freedom.

Crabb may have been reacting to an item in Private Eye, referred to by the Johnny Void blog, which said today:

More appalling revelations have emerged in this week’s Private Eye about DWP boss and Tory leadership hopeful Stephen Crabb’s links to religious organisations with extremist views on gay and lesbian people.

According to their website, Crabb sits on the Council of Reference of GWEINI, a group which claims to represent the Christian voluntary sector in Wales. In reality however they appear to be a front group for the Evangelical Alliance who support gay cures in some cases and believe that sexually active gay and lesbian people – even those in committed relationships – should be subject to church discipline.

Godding

The chairperson of GWEINI is the appropriately named Elfed Godding, above, who is also the national director of Evangelical Alliance Wales with whom they share a phone number and address.

They operate under the same charity registration number as the UK wide Evangelical Alliance and explain on their website that GWEINI is:

Evangelical Alliance Wales working with other Christian agencies in the nation.

One of those agencies is CARE, the group that Stephen Crabb once enjoyed a “fantastic year” with as an intern and who in 2009 funded a “gay cure” conference where among other things they discussed:

Mentoring the sexually broken. 

Joining Crabb on GWEINI’s Council of Reference is his old friend Lyndon Bowring, the Executive Chairman of CARE.

CARE have watered down their public opposition to gay and lesbian people recently, but you can’t say the same for the Evangelical Alliance. 

In 2012 the they published a book called Biblical and pastoral responses to homosexuality to address what they said was an urgent need for guidance on matters relating to sexuality. 

To read it is like stepping back in time. Whilst the Alliance offer sympathy to those that experience ‘same sex attraction’ they insist that any sexual activity between those of the same sex is a sin and incompatible with Christian life.

Instead lesbian and gay Christians should be supported to live chastely says the group and church leaders are encouraged to support ‘reparative therapy’ – meaning an attempt to cure them of homosexuality – for those that want it.

They say they “welcome and support … those who  offer counsel and pastoral support” to help gay and lesbian people live a “chaste life” claiming that part of this process may mean some “experience changes in the strength or direction of their same-sex attractions”.  According to the Alliance there is “plenty of anecdotal evidence” that gay and lesbian sexualities can be changed.

This doesn’t mean they are homophobic they insist, saying they welcome gay and lesbians into churches as long as they don’t ever have sex.  But they also warn that “habitual homoerotic sexual activity without repentance”, and those who promote it, should be disciplined by, or even kicked out of their churches.

And they mean it.  In 2012 they expelled Oasis, an evangelical ministry which published a piece on their website arguing that monogamous same-sex relationships are not sinful.

They are still happy to work with Stephen Crabb though.

Crabb, who voted against gay marriage, has insisted that he does not support a gay cure.  Yet he is embedded within an evangelical movement who actively promote such practices and who make no secret of their opposition to LGBT people. 

Will the real Stephen Crabb ever actually stand up?  Or perhaps, given the appalling bigots he is happy to be associated with, he should stand down.

If you have any doubts about where this group stands read the Evangelical Alliance’s 10 affirmations which they say summarises their position on lesbian and gay people.

Hat tip: Gill Kerry

16 responses to “Tory Minister Stephen Crabb denies being homophobic”

  1. Marcus says:

    Roald Dahl once wrote of an unnamed US President: “He keep falling into sewers and comes up smelling of shit. He then blames the smell on others.” How well this sums up the egregious Crabb.

  2. Gill Kerry says:

    I see they are flogging a full copy of their affirmations for 7quid on Lulu.com. I have forwarded a complaint to Lulu.com as I believe it is against their t and c`s as per:
    “we expect users of the Site to respect the rights and dignity of others.”

  3. barriejohn says:

    I posted this on another thread earlier today:

    https://youtu.be/uP9oNrPvBHs

  4. Gill Kerry says:

    Found this whilst rummaging around in youtube.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mE30bQ_ziHU

  5. AgentCormac says:

    Elfed Godding. Sounds like a name out of a JRR Tolkien novel and his views are probably about as advanced as something out Middle Earth. And more specifically, out of Mordor – you know, that place where the shadows lie.

  6. Broga says:

    Who appointed him a Minister? Cameron I suppose. Is there any restraint any more on who gets selected to be an MP? I suppose a problem is that what is presented to the public, the voters, is cosmetic. A pared down, tidied up version of the outrageous beliefs so many of our MPs really hold.

  7. L.Long says:

    “… defended voting against gay marriage, saying his decision was based on a wish to protect religious freedom….”
    Is just another way of saying I’m a homophobe and think they are an abomination!!!! Classic case of xtian english where words mean what they want them to mean.

  8. AgentCormac says:

    Is it just me, or does Stephen Crabb have a worrying likeness to Rick Gervais’ David Brent character? No doubt just as hateful too.
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kYJu99bqcCM/Td2M9rp_69I/AAAAAAAAHs0/Bm_XNgdS-u4/s1600/Ricky%252BGervais%252BOffice%252BFinale.jpg

  9. barriejohn says:

    He’s withdrawn, and is giving his support to Theresa May, though he won’t have done his future career any damage:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36718196

  10. barriejohn says:

    AgentCormac: You’re right!

    “If you want the rainbow, you’ve got to put up with the rain. Do you know which ‘philosopher’ said that? Dolly Parton. And people say she’s just a pair of tits.”

  11. I believe Mr Crabb. He is not a homophobe. But even if he were, so what? Besides which, I find the man attractive, and would love to be nipped by the pincers of this truly adorable crabb.

  12. Broga says:

    He seems to me to be an insecure man who needs to attach himself to the strongest person around. For the same reason he needs to believe totally in evangelical religion. There is less there than meets the eye.

  13. barriejohn says:

    Broga:

    He seems to me to be an insecure man who needs to attach himself to the strongest person around.

    You wouldn’t believe how many of these there are in evangelical circles. It’s why they (like most of the “devoutly religious”) need someone to tell them what to do, how to think, and how to run their lives. It’s why they need a simple, mindless mantra rather than actually thinking for themselves. “God said it, I believe it, and that settles it”, they boast. A prime example was, unbelievably, one of our elders, who just believed whatever the last person he met had said (I’m not joking!). A favourite visiting speaker in Swindon in the 1960s was a character from the Kingston-upon-Hull area , a “missionary” to the Faeroe Islands (yes – you couldn’t make it up), whose name escapes me now. On one visit he was extolling the virtues of the Revised Version over the “much less accurate” KJV, and on the next we all had to use the Revised Standard Version! How can anyone have confidence in “leaders” as fickle as these? Billy Graham was another who seemed to be easily swayed by any “expert” with whom he came in to contact, and endlessly quoted unnamed sources for his latest pet theories (very impressive to the gullible, of course – “Billy Graham says that an expert has told him…”). He’s even decided now that he was wrong about unbelievers being consigned to Hell Fire when they die. Well – that must be the most spectacular example of backtracking in the history of the universe!

    http://theses.gla.ac.uk/3647/1/2012joanssonphd.pdf

  14. barriejohn says:

    PS It’s just come to me – it was G. K. Lowther, and he was from Grimsby. I often wondered whether anyone knew what the G. K. stood for, or whether, like Harry S Truman, he only had initials and no name. Many speakers liked to be referred to in similar manner, and it is SO pretentious.

    http://www.preciousseed.org/article_detail.cfm?articleID=1590

  15. Shaun Whitfield says:

    It is often said that people feel a disconnection with their rulers because the latter are unrepresentative of their electorates, eg PPE at Oxford, never had a proper job, worked in a think tank, then special adviser,before selection as a PPC. However, I think the biggest disconnection concerns religious belief. While the percentage of non-believers increases with every poll, survey or census, I am sure the religious are ever more disproportionately represented in parliament, and I don’t mean just the Bishops in the Lords. We know that Farron, Morgan, Crabb and many others are god botherers, but they seem blissfully unaware that most people think their religiosity is bonkers, or at best an irrelevance. Then you have the right wing Cornerstone Group, which has around 50 Tory MPs as members, which advocates old style fire and brimstone religion, with a lot of patriotism thrown in. And don’t forget Christians on the Left (renamed because their previous title included the dirty word socialism). This is why we end up with increasing numbers of ‘faith schools’, whereas the biggest decline in religious belief is among young people.

    Having graduated from Oxford may make you unrepresentative of the people who elected you, but to me it is far more preferable than having loads of religionists in parliament.

  16. Cali Ron says:

    Miss FR: I hope that was sarcasm. (Sorry for the “FR”, my phone keeps auto correcting your name .)