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Crazy creationist Carson could shape US education policy

Crazy creationist Carson could shape US education policy

Amidst widespread rioting across America following Trump’s victory, the Freedom From Religion Foundation warned that Dr Ben Carson, above, could well be appointed the US’s next Secretary of Education as he is on a short-list of just two.

Writing for Patheos, staff attorney for the FFRF Andrew L Seidel pointed out that:

Carson is a man who thinks that Joseph, a character from the Bible, ‘built the pyramids to store grain’. This is a man who believes that evolution ‘was encouraged by the adversary’. The ‘adversary’ referred to here is the devil, also a character from the Bible.

Those are two important ‘facts’ derived from the book of fairy tales upon which Carson bases his life. But Carson’s anti-education, pro-religious-myth views don’t end there.

He thinks that ‘highfalutin scientists’ came up with the Big Bang, which he thinks is ‘even more ridiculous’ than the old trope of a hurricane going through a junkyard and building a 747.

And he has claimed that ‘ultimately, if you accept the evolutionary theory, you dismiss ethics, you don’t have to abide by a set of moral codes, you determine your own conscience based on your own desires.

Ben Carson is for a vast expansion of vouchers, claiming that ‘the best education is homeschool, the next is private schools’. He has called public schools ‘the best propaganda system in the world’.

The common thread here is Carson putting his religion-addled worldview above facts and the mountains (pyramids?) of evidence that support those facts.

Seidel added:

If he’s given control of our nation’s education system, FFRF has little doubt that Carson will abuse it. He will abuse a public office that belongs to We the People to foist his personal religion on other people’s children. But before accepting this appointment, Carson should know that FFRF is going to pummel him with the First Amendment.

Carson by himself isn’t the only problem, though. More alarmingly, his appointment will be seen as a signal by many teachers that religion in public schools is now acceptable.

And Seidel vowed:

FFRF is going to continue protecting our public schools from vouchers that bankrupt a secular system and give money to unregulated, ineffective religious schools.

We will stand between non-religious families and the religious bullies that threaten them.

We are going to take on any teacher that chastises a student for opting out of the godly Pledge.

We will preserve the teaching of evolution and rain down lawsuits on schools that insist on preaching creationism.

We are going to expel the Gideons – those predatory adults who want to give children books that promise eternal torture – from our public schools.

We are going to plague teachers and coaches who think preaching to and praying with a captive audience is their Christian right.

FFRF is going to keep our schools secular. We are going to defend the Wall of Separation. We hope you’ll join us.

Meanwhile, it is reported here that in the 24 hours after Trump became President-elect, people flocked to donate to the ACLU – a national legal organisation known for suing the government to block racially biased laws and advocate for free speech.

The American Civil Liberties Union’s donation website crashed under a crush of visitors Wednesday morning, ACLU spokesperson Gabriela Melendez said.

By Thursday morning, she added, the group reached a record for online donations in that timeframe: $2.4 million from 38,626 contributions.

The surge was an over 7,000% increase to our donate link.

The group shared internal records indicating the site went down.

It’s hard to say how long it was down for and we’re trying to pull dollars and gift numbers. Our system is extremely overwhelmed with all of the hits we’re getting.

25 responses to “Crazy creationist Carson could shape US education policy”

  1. L.Long says:

    “…. you determine your own conscience based on your own desires…..” Which is totally true and totally demonstrated by your own actions! I do determine by own morality and not by cherry picking a bunch of stone age fairy tales written by bronze age bigots.

  2. Bill Bonk says:

    Well they better start prayin that Putin behaves himself. Putin is an opportunist thug and the Trump Presidency is the biggest opportunity Putin could have wished for, and maybe even prayed for. The stock and reputation of the Patriarch Kiril will soar like a Soyuz rocket if Kiril claims his intervention secured a Trump victory.
    Kennedy was assassinated, for the crime of upsetting the catholics, by its jesuit wing. Maybe there is an umbrella implanted ricin freighted pellet with Trump’s name on it, or a sachet of polonium laced coffee mate planted in the Oval Office that will save the world from WWIII. Wouldn’t that be ironic … using the KGB’s own assassination techiniques to destroy Putins Golden (orange) Opportunity.

  3. nogbad666 says:

    “He has called public schools ‘the best propaganda system in the world”
    No doubt he will now be aiming to use them to push his own particular brand of propaganda onto young minds, thereby denying them the decent education that would fuel the rest of their lives. Child abuse, pure and simple.

  4. Bill Bonk says:

    I give Trump 4 years topside. But I reckon on less because he is bound to do something disastrously stupid that will precipitate his removal from office.
    Or am I guilty of wish thinking like most of the USA electorate who voted for Trump.
    However, Trump’s election victory does betray the fact that American Political System is busted beyond practical use.

  5. AgentCormac says:

    ‘We are going to defend the Wall of Separation.’

    That’s one wall I will approve of over the next four years.

  6. Broga says:

    With Trump as President the civilised nations of the world will watch in appalled fascination as the USA slides into disaster underpinned by a medieval mindset.

    They now have a President who is happy to boast that, because he is famous, he can grope women’s pussies. Truly, you couldn’t make is up.

  7. Rick scarbo says:

    Could we fund pro-ISIS groups in the US and set them on the xtians getting rid of two lots of idiots in one go?

  8. AgentCormac says:

    @Bill Bonk

    That’s if he doesn’t first do something disastrously stupid that will precipitate the removal of us all from the face of the planet.

  9. AgentCormac says:

    It’s people like Trump and Carson who are responsible for the following – scroll down to the very last image.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37948762

  10. Paul says:

    If Carson is elected it’s not much different to that silly religious woman Clarke here in the U.K. who seems hell bent on pushing more religion into school education . Or the damage that that idiot Blair caused by creating and allowing all these moronic faith schools.
    People do see the creeping religiosity of education here but often I think seem powerless to prevent it as once elected these clowns pursue their own religious agendas often at the expense of us financially and our children intellectually.

  11. remigius says:

    @Paul. I’m not entirely sure who you mean by ‘that silly religious woman Clarke…’. The current Education Secretary, Justine Greening, doesn’t strike me as being particularly religious – especially after she turned gay during the referendum.

    There have been a couple of Education Sec’s called Clarke but they were both men. The only two who tick all three boxes – silly, religious and female – are Ruth Kelly (Opus Dei) and Nicky Morgan (Batshit Crazy). Perhaps you meant the latter.

    And, of course, there is Michael Gove who wrote his own forward to the Bible, and sent a copy to every school.

  12. barriejohn says:

    Can you imagine an administration that also includes Newt Gingrich, Rudolph the Red-Nosed Giuliani, and Sarah Palin (fresh from keeping watch on Vladimir Putin through binoculars from her front porch)? Things are going to be far worse than we could have imagined. They were supposed to have taken Donnie’s laptop off him, but he was tweeting about the demonstrators in the wee small hours again; first condemning them, and then praising them. So he should, actually, because after the last election he was calling for rioting on the streets! I think that his supporters, who, like the Brexiteers, are not going to get anything like what they imagined, are going to be very disappointed to find that many of the “policies” for which they were voting will be hastily dropped, but that others, which don’t really concern them, will be prominent in the minds of the new administration (who have their own agenda). Watch this space.

  13. Broga says:

    @barriejohn: Trump promised that he would make changes as soon as he was elected. However, many Republicans in the Senate and Congress don’t agree with him. Yet his dopey supporters are now waiting, tongues hanging out like slavering dogs, for action on 21st January, 2017.

    Trump is great on action as long as all he has to do is say it or tweet it. He has never been in the military and never held elected office. He has no idea how to achieve any of his extreme promises. Already he is backing off but he is already horribly exposed. Unless he is of a very different calibre to the man he seems to be he will struggle to last four years.

    If he does last then he will be a wrecking ball on the building that is the USA. Education smashed, science downgraded, religion elevated, the environment trashed, women demeaned, open season of gays and non whites. But people are not passive. There is going to be one hell of a backlash. He is already Putin’s Poodle.

  14. John the Drunkard says:

    Carson does not have to be elected. the Cabinet is appointed with congressional approval. And guess who controls Congress?

  15. Paul says:

    Remigius.
    Yes apologies for the wrong name I Meant that silly cow – the bat shit crazy goat herder lover. Morgan.

  16. My my my, but many of those commenting here would sure as hell like to grab Trump’s pussy, that’s for certain. Perhaps Trump should change his name to Pussy Galore? Titter. But how about making a grab for Miss Carson’s lil’ ole’ pussy? Or should this–rightly in my opinion–be considered One Step Beyond? We live in strange times indeed.

  17. Who will attempt to assassinate President Trump first? A bearded Islamist, an autistic ‘loner’, an irate Social Justice Warrior, a paranoid member of a marginalised and radicalised minority group, or a crazed Generation Snowflake student dressed all in black who was neglected in his childhood by his cruel Mama? Poor President Trump, they’ll all be after his head rather than his diminutive pussy.

  18. Clive says:

    It could have been worse.

    Hillary Clinton might have been elected President. Then we would have had ‘No-Fly-Zones’ in Syria to protect US-UK-Saudi-Qatari-Israeli-backed Islamist (ISIS & Al-Qaeda) Terrorists, helping them to overthrow the secular, elected, Syrian government, leading to nuclear war against Russia.

    We still might get that, anyway, especially if Trump appoints Neocon advisers and assistants. But, if Hillary had been elected, nuclear war to protect Islamist terrorists would, certainly, have been in the offing.

  19. DMedd says:

    Inmates running the asylum.

  20. Broga says:

    Trump is already running for cover and saying he may keep some of Obama Care. Don’t hold your breath on the wall.

  21. chrsbol says:

    Rich Hall on HIGNFY last night. Said something like Clinton wanting to delete her email history and Trump could erase all history. Not the show it once was but the odd funny comment!

  22. barriejohn says:

    @chrsbol: Ian Hislop monopolizes the programme far too much these days, and isn’t as funny as he obviously thinks he is. Private Eye could do with some fresh ideas as well, but he hangs on for grim death. The covers can still be good though:

    http://www.private-eye.co.uk/covers/cover-1429

  23. Have I Got News For You is nauseating leftist garbage. Highly predictable, the programme is a disgrace and will appeal primarily to brainwashed politically correct, virtue signalling luvvies.

  24. StephenJP says:

    Cor, that’s a bit sweeping, I quite enjoy it and I don’t think I fall into any of the narrow categories you identify.

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