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Jews and Muslims unite to condemn hate preacher

Jews and Muslims unite to condemn hate preacher

Jordanian cleric Sheikh Muhammad bin Musa Al Nasr, above, has sparked an investigation into a Montreal mosque in which he delivered a sermon advocating the killing of Jews.

According to this report, his sermon took place at the Dar Al-Arqam Mosque in the city’s Saint-Michel neighbourhood and was later posted on YouTube.

In the video, the imam says in Arabic:

O Muslim, O servant of Allah, O Muslim, O servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.

Part of the phrase references an Islamic hadith, which interprets the words and actions by the “Prophet” Mohammed.

The video was brought to the attention of B’nai Brith Canada, which filed a complaint with Montreal police on Monday.

The organisation said it is totally unacceptable that a mosque would allow this to go on.

Said Harvey Levine, Regional Director of B’nai Brith in Quebec:

This is inciting violence, and this is inciting radicalisation. It’s against the law and has to be stopped.

He added that the complaint was filed with the Montreal hate crimes unit. Montreal police confirmed they received a complaint, but would not provide any more information.

The President of the Muslim Council of Montreal, Salam Elmenyawi, wants to know why the imam was invited. He says the mosque should apologise.

He added that the Dar Al-Arqam Mosque is not one of the more than 40 institutions the council represents.

Imam Ziad Asali of the Association of Islamic Charitable Projects told CBC Montreal’s Daybreak yesterday that he was also mystified as to why the cleric was invited to preach.

I do not understand how this person was invited to come and give a sermon and spread this hatred in Montreal against any community.

The hadith is one of more than 100,000 that are written in many books, some of which are considered authentic, while others are not, said Asali.

To use the themes of the Prophet to spread hatred is actually something that is disrespectful towards the Prophet himself.

There are mosques in Montreal, the imam said, that embrace more extremist messages.

These people, not only do they show hatred towards non-Muslims, they even show hatred to us Muslims.

Levine said this is the second complaint against a Montreal-area mosque filed with the Montreal police’s hate crime unit in just over 40 days.

He said the police are still investigating that first instance but says they are not taking action quickly enough.

This is totally unacceptable. We want to know why the hate crimes unit has not done something to date yet. This person should be arrested and charged for hate crimes.

CIJA Quebec, an organisation that advocates for the Jewish community, said it has a close relationship with the Montreal police and has been following the two complaints.

Said David Ouellette, deputy director for CIJA Quebec:

We know the Montreal police are seriously and diligently investigating these sermons.

He added the group believes the police are close to completing their investigation of the first complaint.

16 responses to “Jews and Muslims unite to condemn hate preacher”

  1. Trevor Blake says:

    The full quote from Sahih Bukhari (52:177) – Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.”

    The Sahih Bukhara is accepted by all Muslims.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahih_al-Bukhari

    I do not advocate this book or any book be made illegal. I do advocate it be criticized, mocked and given no special standing in culture or law.

    The gawping flapping jaws of Muslims pretending they’ve never heard such a thing deceives no one other than those begging to avoid confront the facts about Islam. Islam is and always will be predicated on the murder of Jews. Among others. Many others.

  2. Daz says:

    “The Sahih Bukhara is accepted by all Muslims”

    Except for those who don’t accept it, at least in part, as shown by the fact that there are Muslims directly quoted in the OP who decried the cleric who preached part of it. What you’ve done there is the equivalent of saying “All Christians accept the Bible.” Certainly a true statement as far as it goes, but would it be honest to upbraid a protestant regarding a passage in Judith or Tobit…?

    All religious groups endlessly interpret and reinterpret their scripture. Usually in order to bring it into line with the group’s secularly-derived moral and ethical stance. Indeed, that ability to be twisted to support any worldview is part of what makes religious text such an unreliable moral compass. You could, if you wished, criticise their willingness to ignore or downplay certain passages, whilst pretending (if they do) that their book is unerring. But to claim that all members of a religion (any religion) believe X (such as, for instance, the necessity of murdering Jews) when you’ve just beeen presented with strong evidence that they do not all believe X, is to fly in the face of reason and seems, to be frank, dishonest.

  3. Paul says:

    Trevor Blake
    I agree not to ban but to critique. However, this must be done constantly, openly and rationally. Just like we now need to critique and criticise those muslim politicians and other ‘faith healers’ so called stating first that the latest
    Muslim atrocity in London ‘wasn’t done in the name of (religion) or Islam and Islam isn’t like “that”‘. I want to vomit – who are these clowns trying to win over, how many times has this been said ? islam is only what all these suicidal scum say they are doing it for and it’s puerile and disingenuous for these people to state otherwise. To condemn the actions is essential and I don’t wish to stop them doing it, but please spare us the ‘this isn’t my religion’ bullshit. It is. It absolutely is. It might not be ‘your’ interpretation or way of carrying out ‘your’ islam, but it is Islam through and through.
    Religion is a breeding ground for hatred, violence and separation, because none of these adherents are able to critique or criticise it openly or rationally. It is closed as are their minds and it is irrational.

  4. Newspaniard says:

    Can you hear the sound of muslim umbrellas going up all over Canada and the words “Nothing to do with islam”, “islam is a religion of peace”. Tell that bollocks to those grieving for those lost at Westminster. Tell that to those who would abuse Tommy Robinson for shouting the truth at MSN:
    http://www.bizpacreview.com/2017/03/23/anti-islamization-leaders-drop-uncensored-truth-filled-rant-left-wing-media-wont-soon-forget-462344

  5. L.Long says:

    As I have said there is no real such thing as a moderate anything! As I tell ‘moderate’ xtians…want to convince me you are nicer than your ahole religion? Then change your book o’BS to NOT do violence-bigotry-hate! Then I will believe you!

  6. barriejohn says:

    Trevor Blake: By the same token, Jews and Christians accept the Pentateuch, which predicates eternal enmity between the Jews and the Arabs, especially in such stories as those of Isaac and Ishmael and Jacob and Esau (there’s a strange parallelism between those). However, most Christians and Jews don’t take all that literally, though some, sadly, do, and I knew many who considered that a deadly conflict between the two groups was inevitable, and was destined to reach its climax at Armageddon. They never criticised steps taken by the Israelis to expand their influence or territory in the region, as that was all part of “God’s plan”. It would be interesting to know what David Friedman’s views are on this subject:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38337108

  7. barriejohn says:

    PS More here:

    https://www.therefinersfire.org/ishmael_and_isaac.htm

    The author quotes Hal Lindsey (facepalms!):

    This is exactly the situation that continues to develop in the Middle East. The world has been dragged into the ancient conflict between Isaac and Ishmael in spite of its best efforts to stay out of it. This conflict that has raged between these two half brothers for 4,000 years is destined to ignite the last war of the world, according to the Bible prophets.

  8. John the Drunkard says:

    Sure, MOST Xtians don’t want to stone adulterers or keep slaves…today. The Abrahamic religions cannot claim any moral high ground until they can, INTERNALLY, demonstrate that the portions of their scripture they don’t want to acknowledge can be refuted in a way that will stick.

    ISIS etc. DO represent an Islam as ‘real’ as any other. Deranged American fundies aren’t making up false precedent for their bigotry. Genuine reformers have to do genuine reform. Secularists can try to be supportive, but we have no excuse for participating in relativism and evasion.

    The violent, triumphalist, anti-Semitic portions of Abraham 2.0 and 3.0 cannot be ignored.

  9. barriejohn says:

    John the Drunkard: “Internally”? You must be joking! The Bible and the Koran each make the same ridiculous claim that they are verbally inspired and inerrant, and that they alone contain the word of God. It is only because most western Christians are better educated and more sophisticated than the original writers that they have been able to abandon a literalist view of their scriptures. Sadly, this is not the case yet with many Muslims, and time seems to be running out.

  10. Marcus says:

    Aha! Now we know who ate all the pork pies!

  11. Paul says:

    When is he coming to Finsbury Park mosk. He must’ve been invited.

  12. All muslims and jews need to go back to the ME and stay there. We don’t need them or their theocracy bullshit. They can all just fuck right off.

  13. Trevor Blake says:

    Daz and Barryjohn: You are correct. It would have been more accurate for me to say “The Sahih Bukhara is accepted by all Muslim _groups_.” This was my intent but I failed to convey it.

  14. barriejohn says:

    We’re in big trouble as long as people take seriously the ramblings of primitive religious maniacs, and think that that is what should shape our laws, lifestyles and morality. The Jehovah’s Witnesses stuffed a leaflet through our door yesterday, inviting us to celebrate the anniversary of “Jesus’ Death” with them this year, on 11th April (see link). I notice that the illustration features children, which means that there must be birth, development, and…er…death in their New Earth. They don’t think, do they?

    https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/memorial/

    (Actually, their illustrations don’t inspire me; they just remind me of The Island of Doctor Moreau. Am I the only one?)

  15. barriejohn says:

    Mike: Jews, in particular, have made a huge contribution to the progress of western society (Albert Einstein’s family were Jewish). It’s only the religious bullshit that we don’t want!

  16. Cali Ron says:

    Mike: So are you including the thousands of jews who are not practicing the Jewish religion when you tell them to get out and fuck right off? I know some secular jews who would consider you and your comment to be hateful and intolerant, much like what the Muslims you hate also say to them.