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Christian education is needed to put the fear of God into kids

Christian education is needed to put the fear of God into kids

Two Christian zealots – retired military chaplain Lt Col E Ray Moore, above left, and evangelist Dr James Dobson – have sounded a warning that the public education system in America is hastening the decline of churches, and  subjecting kids to ‘spiritual damage, extreme indoctrination, and other serious problems’.

When the two got together to flap their lips on Dobson’s Family Talk radio programme about the dangers of posed by government schools, it was mentioned that “Jesus was home-schooled until the age of 12” and this should serve a wake-up call for Christian parents to pull their kids en masse out of the public school system.

Moore is the “brains” behind the Exodus Mandate (motto: “Let my children go”.)

Writing for The New American, Alex Newman said:

The explosive interview could have far-reaching ramifications, forcing millions of Christian parents and thousands of pastors across America to re-consider their choices.

Moore said churches and Christian families must launch a fresh effort to:

Really grow Christian schooling and home-schooling in the evangelical and conservative church community. The Bible is clear: Scripture assigns the education of children to the family with assistance from the church — and not government. So we actually do not believe in state-sponsored education in any fashion.

Citing various Bible verses, Moore said parents are commanded to raise their children up in the “culture” of the Lord.

Home-schooling and Christian schools help fulfill that, he explained, adding that public schools today are overtly hostile to Christianity and the Bible.

Especially in the early years of child development, home-schooling is “an excellent choice”, with Christian schools available later for those who feel they can’t do it themselves. For one, it creates a strong solidarity in the family, Moore said, adding that many homeschooling families are able to avoid the “teenage rebellion” stage altogether.

These kids that are home-schooled, and their peers in Christian schools, are a different breed, it’s a different culture.

Dobson agreed, saying:

Today, public schools don’t offer much in the way of values education, and if they do, it’s often wrong … so much of what goes on in public schools is really harmful.

Both Moore and Dobson noted that even Jesus was homeschooled until he was 12. And Moore said it was clearly the right choice, noting that his children, now in their 30s and 40s, are “still walking with the Lord”, have “good marriages,” and are “very successful”.” The same is true as a general rule, both agreed, saying that home-schooled children and children from Christian schools were more respectful, better educated, and more.

On the other hand, public schools are responsible for the decline in morality and the church. Said Moore:

We believe you can make a case with data that the main reason the culture and the next generation are turning away from traditional values, from the Gospel, from Christianity, is primarily because of the indoctrination of the public-school system.

He added that some 80 percent of evangelicals today have their children in government school.

So we’re losing about 70 to 80 percent of the Christian children, they’re abandoning the church and the Christian faith in their early adult years. And people will ask why this is happening. Well, you put them in a public school, you didn’t give them a Christian education. It grieves me to have to say this, so I’ll be as delicate as I can, but a lot of our very good conservative pastors are not doing their job on starting up Christian schools or encouraging K-12 Christian schooling,

He said many pastors have told him they are scared of taking a stand because so many in their flocks have their children in government schools.

So we’re in an awkward moment in history where the pastors may think, if I speak up and really push this hard, I might lose my job. They do think that. But if they don’t, we lose our country and we lose our children.

He added that children need to be brought up in the fear and admonition of the Lord. And they are not getting that in government schools — in fact, they are getting the opposite.

We’re losing our children because of the extreme indoctrination going on. We have LGBT teachings now in the schools, evolution – you can’t teach intelligent design or creation – they’re doing a revisionist form of American history, they’re not even learning basic, rudimentary education anymore in a lot of our public schools.

He also attacked Common Core, the controversial national “education” standards foisted on states by the Obama administration, as part of a “radical progressive agenda” that has even started creeping into some Christian schools.

Both Moore and Dobson noted that even Jesus was homeschooled until he was 12. And Moore said it was clearly the right choice, noting that his children, now in their 30s and 40s, are “still walking with the Lord”, have “good marriages,” and are “very successful”.” The same is true as a general rule, both agreed, saying that home-schooled children and children from Christian schools were more respectful, better educated, and more.

Alex Newman concluded his article by saying:

Indeed, public schools have been getting more and more brazenly anti-Christian in recent years. And  the indoctrination – both political and religious – has become progressively more extreme, to the point where it is now becoming obvious to anyone who cares to look. However, it still remains to be seen whether enough American children will be able to receive a good enough education to sustain the churches, the values, and the liberties that made America great.

18 responses to “Christian education is needed to put the fear of God into kids”

  1. barriejohn says:

    “Spiritual damage” and “extreme indoctrination”. Where do they get it from?

  2. Johan says:

    The USA has bred hundreds of millions of undereducated stupefied lard arse halfwit creationist gun toting Bubba T Flubba types with is poor schools and low standard of education. But this lunatic idea is going to make things much worse. The USA is going down … the country that was the industrial powerhouse of the whole world, that put men on the moon is reduced to a failed state … tragic.

  3. Alan Crowe says:

    Give me the child until s/he is 7…….
    It’s religions only chance of long term survival and they know it.

  4. Smokey says:

    Holy shit. They’re not satisfied with Trump. They want people schtoopid enough to vote for Ken Ham.

  5. andym says:

    Basically an admission that children, given a wide reason-based education, tend to turn away from religion. And that the deluded need to indoctrinate children in isolation to retain them.

    What does a military chaplain actually do to warrant the rank Lt. Col.?

  6. barriejohn says:

    @andym: I have no idea, but did you look at his biography?

    E. Ray Moore (Chaplain, Lt. Col. USAR Ret.), has served for forty years in pastoral ministry as a campus pastor, a congregational minister, an Army Chaplain or Director of a Christian ministry. Additionally, he has served as a campaign consultant or staff for several major political campaigns, including former Vice-President Dan Quayle’s first Senate race in 1980, former Congressman Mark Siljander’s first Congressional race in 1981 and Pat Robertson’s Presidential Campaign in 1986 to 1988.

    A South Carolina native, he is a graduate of The Citadel with a B.A. in political science and was graduated from Grace Theological Seminary cum laude with a M.Div. (Master of Divinity) in 1974 and with a Th.M. (Master of Theology) in 1979. He served nineteen years as an Army Reserve Chaplain, retiring as Lt. Colonel in 1999. He was awarded the Bronze Star for service in Gulf War I.

  7. DDN says:

    Yeah but he’s still a prick.

  8. DDN says:

    And a liar … But hey he’s a Christian and they lie for a living.

  9. andym says:

    So I think the answer to my question is “sod all.”

    Dan Quayle. Now there’s a name from the past….The one thing I can remember about him is correcting a schoolchild’s spelling by putting an e on the end of “potato.”

  10. Peterat says:

    How many schools were there for Jesus to attend in Bronze-age Palestine? Just askin’.

  11. barriejohn says:

    @andym: Yes, and Pat Robertson’s Presidential Campaign.

    Robertson ran on a standard conservative platform. Among his policies, he wanted to ban pornography, reform the education system, and eliminate departments such as the Department of Education and the Department of Energy. He also supported a constitutional amendment requiring a balanced federal budget.

    Robertson’s campaign got off to a strong second-place finish in the Iowa caucus, ahead of Bush. He did poorly in the subsequent New Hampshire primary, however, and was unable to be competitive once the multiple-state primaries began. Robertson ended his campaign before the primaries were finished. His best finish was in Washington, winning the majority of caucus delegates. He later spoke at the 1988 Republican National Convention in New Orleans and told his remaining supporters to cast their votes for Bush, who ended up winning the nomination and the election. He then returned to CBN and has remained there as a religious broadcasting broadcaster. (Wikipedia)

    Latest news:

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/pat-robertson-multiple-sclerosis-is-demonic-and-can-be-healed-once-rebuked/

    These people should not be allowed within a million miles of kids!

  12. barriejohn says:

    @DDN: I’m not sure whom you were addressing, but I hope you didn’t think that I was suggesting that he is highly qualified!

  13. Angela_K says:

    These Christian loonies are as bad as catholic priests who bugger the fear of god into children. Religion fears knowledge.

  14. StephenJP says:

    These people are very worrying. Trouble is that Trump’s Education Secretary, Betsy DeVos, is a virulent home-educator. The damage she could do to the US education system over the next four years is substantial.

    I would like to think that this sort of insanity could never gain traction on this side of the Atlantic, but in the current climate you never know.

  15. barriejohn says:

    Stephen: And what about Karen Pence, the unelected “prayer warrior” and supporter of “gay conversion” therapies at the heart of government now? It emerges that she wrote to a newspaper regarding an article that it had published:

    I only pray that most parents were able to intercept your article before their children were encouraged to call the Gay/Lesbian Youth Hotline, which encourages them to ‘accept their homosexuality’ instead of reassuring them that they are not.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/karen-pence-white-house-prayer-warrior-hard-line-christian-second-lady-vice-president-wife-mike-a7657316.html

    (PS How do you pray that something may have happened in the past? Idiot.)

  16. 1859 says:

    Believe in a ‘lord’, in miraculous births, risings from the dead,burning incense, walking on water, eating and drinking divine flesh and blood – and you will receive ‘true’ knowledge and lead a successful life.
    Believe in rational inquiry,evolution, proof, evidence, discussion, debate,tolerance, open-hearted acceptance – and you are being ‘indoctrinated’and will lead the life of a scum bag.
    As a self-confessed scum bag myself, my only hope is that the above article really is a symptom of the degree of desperation these religious bigots have reached, as more and more young people think for themselves, stand up and tell these idiots to their smug faces that enough is enough. Long live freethinking young people!

  17. Robster says:

    These silly religious types in trying to figure out where sunlight comes from…errr…no..,why their faith system is so out of fashion, why a large number don’t indulge in their chosen nonsense is that it’s all bullsh*t, the lot of it. Overt bullsh*t.

  18. Gui says:

    “However, it still remains to be seen whether enough American children will be able to receive a good enough education to sustain the churches, the values, and the liberties that made America great.”

    These guys deffends the USA as being a christian nation and that it is being eroded by liberals. How they explain that a country so deeply rooted in christian values could sustain slavery by so long and then by a couple of more years deny fundamental rights to those former slaves?