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Ramadan provocation: woman punished for wearing shorts

Ramadan provocation: woman punished for wearing shorts

Ercan Kizilates, pictured in police custody in Turkey, played the provocation card after he allegedly assaulted a young woman on a minibus in Istanbul.

Kizilates, according to news channel BirGün, claims that he was “turned on” by the sight of Melisa Saglam in shorts, and warned her about wearing “revealing” clothing during Ramadan.

He said in a statement:

I warned the woman in shorts because it caught my attention that her clothes were too revealing and her crotch was visible; and, I was fasting [for Ramadan]. I said to her: ‘My friend, there is something called manners and morals. Getting on a public transportation like this is not proper.’

So, in response to this, the woman told me ‘not to look, then’… I told her that sometimes people cannot control their desires and told her that her way of dressing turned me on. She huffed … and began to talk to someone on her phone about me saying ‘Some man on the bus is giving me stupid advice on religion and so on’.

I heard this and I got angry; and, I told her to stop talking about me to the other person … and, I just pushed her face with the back of my hand slowly before getting out of the car …

He added that Saglam then got up and “attacked and cursed” him.

At that time, I thought the woman was an athlete because she attacked me with a great move and courage … The woman punched me on my left shoulder. Her punch was not very strong.

I pushed the woman just so I could prevent her from harming me. If the camera recordings are examined, it will be seen that I did not attack or batter the woman. Then, I got out of the vehicle just to not get into an argument with her. I have a complaint about her!

However, the video shows him slapping Saglam. He then batters her as she tries to defend herself.

Video footage released by BirGün sparked public outrage, and the chief prosecutor ordered his arrest. It’s been reported that the suspect has been in detention since yesterday (Wednesday), but according to information received from the police department, the warrant of arrest against him is not over the attack on Saglam but over a tax debt.

Newsweek yesterday reported that Kizilates had been detained immediately after the incident, which took place on June 14, but he was released after he explained that he had been provoked. A warrant for his arrest was then issued after Turkish women’s activists reacted angrily to the attack.

The Turkish arm of women’s rights activist group FEMEN tweeted:

Yet another woman was attacked in Turkey for wearing short shorts!!!

Women’s rights organisation We Will Stop Femicide Platform wrote on Twitter:

The release of the attacker is a threat to all women. We will wear whatever we want outside. We will not give up our freedoms.

It also shared footage of the video and retweeted dozens of supportive messages from Turkish women who used a hashtag of Saglam’s name.

The organisation said that men in Turkey have murdered 173 women between January and May this year. The number was 328 for the whole of 2016. Rights groups have alleged that the Turkish government’s increasing Islamisation of the secular country is eroding women’s rights.

Saglam says she wants justice – and for life to return to normal again after the assault.

Speaking to Turkey’s Hurriyet newspaper, she said:

My only wish from the justice system is that an appropriate, dissuasive punishment is given to the assailant. I do not want him to walk around freely because I cannot anymore. Since being assaulted I have been unable to go anywhere without my mother. I cannot even get on public transportation.

In this report Saglam claimed that the driver of the minibus watched the attack take place and did nothing, and that another man even told her to “stop crying”.

Saglam asked the driver :

Didn’t you feel sorry at all?’

He replied:

I don’t have to protect you.

In a separate incident reported this week by BirGün, two teenage boys were verbally abused in Istanbul by “men in robes” for eating ice cream during Ramadan.

The boys were told:

This is a Muslim country … one cannot act like this while everyone is fasting.

12 responses to “Ramadan provocation: woman punished for wearing shorts”

  1. Bart says:

    Get used to it. Turkey is heading down the islamic sewer. There will be more and worse to come as the vultures of allah pick clean the carcass of a once secular democracy. Erdogan has set his face to inflict hard core islamic rule to Turkey to bring back the caliphate with him as the deputy of god. IS tried to restore the caliphate but that evil bunch of lawless thugs and bandits got it wrong. Erogan is a calculating slime ball wannabe dictator and caliph with a different more political strategy to get what he wants.

  2. Paul says:

    Bart
    You are wrong about Erdogan he is not at all a wannabe dictator he already is.

  3. barriejohn says:

    I’m sorry, but every time Christian and Muslim puritans start banging on about “sexual provocation” I think of Les Dawson’s priceless Cosmo Smallpiece. The man was a genius.

    https://youtu.be/js3xIg2pw8w

  4. Trevor Blake says:

    “sometimes people cannot control their desires and told her that her way of dressing turned me on.”

    May he experience no such situation in prison.

  5. Paul says:

    I’ve had an association with Turkey for over 30 Years and have also lived there for many years.
    I have noticed a creeping islamification over this period and it isn’t getting better and won’t. When I first went I saw NO young girls or women wearing headscarves. Now there are so many it’s almost the norm. Yet still they wear tight fitting clothing so their bodies are in full view. Go figure.
    No one ever complained about people eating in the street or restaurants etc during ramadam. Fasting is a personal choice it is between a person and their gawd. Forcing it on people is not what the koran states. I suspect the boys eating ice cream being told off like that is isolated.
    Turkish domestic tv programmes and films often show women being beaten by husbands or boyfriends or male relatives. A good decent backhander common to shut a woman up. Their male dominated society won’t change. Why should it when that’s normal to so many men.
    For some years I have held the view that Turkey is heading to be the new Iranian Islamic Republic. With the kemalists, secularists, media controlled and silenced, (more journalists in prison than China says everything about Turkey), the military neutralised, and with erdogan an irremovable dictator the prediction is slowly taking shape. I hope they never ever join the EU.

  6. John the Drunkard says:

    Men like that need to be ‘protected.’ Maybe with niqabs/burqas…without eye holes.
    Or maybe they should sit at home with the windows painted over. Think how much effort and money would be saved if these helpless widdle dears inflicted their obsession for control only upon themselves.

  7. Bart says:

    Sorry OT
    Here is another example of the institutionalised protection of child raping clerics. Carey needs to go in the dock for his cover up. And Ball was a mate of Charlie Winsor too … very good buddies I understand. And is this linked to the next item?

    Could Harry’s fantastic observation, which has all the attributes of an officially sanctioned leak, be the first clear indication that his daddy Charlie is being passed over and making way for his elder son to be king. I hope so because Charlie “Wingnut” Windsor is such a sopping ponce and unfit to rule. Why else would Lizzie II be staying in post for so long but to keep Charlie on the sidelines.

  8. remigius says:

    ‘Think how much effort and money would be saved if these helpless widdle dears inflicted their obsession for control only upon themselves.’

    John the Drunkard, unfortunately these wretches cannot, ahem, take matters into their own hands. It appears that ‘shaking hands with President Trump’ is unlawful in Islam. Doubly so during Ramadan – where it apparently breaks the fast.

    https://islamqa.info/en/2571

  9. L.Long says:

    Any male that says I can’t control my self should have his dick cut off.

  10. remigius says:

    L.Long, how many men have suggested that you can’t control yourself? 🙂

  11. L.Long says:

    Good catch on grammar…I had to read it 4x before getting it!!!

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