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German courts refuse to take pasta-based religion seriously

German courts refuse to take pasta-based religion seriously

A legal battle over whether or not the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is an ideological organisation could end up in the European Court of Justice, according to the church’s chairman Rüdiger Weida, above, who goes by the pastafari name of ‘Brother Spaghettus’.

Weida’s legal tussle with the authorities in the small German town of Templin, in the northeastern state of Brandenburg, began last year after the church was told to remove street signs advertising its services.

According to this report, when Weida lost the first round of a court battle in 2016, he complained:

We are just as serious as every other religion, and we want to be able to articulate ourselves just as seriously.

Angry Pastafarians appealed, and Weida took their case the Higher Regional Court, but lost again earlier this month

The court ruled that the church, originally founded to poke fun at “intelligent design” proponents, was not an ideological community, and therefore had no right to its own signs.

“Brother Spaghettus” now says he will take the fight all the way to the European Court of Justice if necessary.

Church members have a number of “holy” prayers. My favourite is:

Our Spaghetti
Who art in meat sauce
Flying be thy way
Thy meatballs come
Thy Noodling done
On earth as it is inside us
Give us this day our bolognaise
And forgive us our pizzas
As we forgive those who eat pizza before us
And lead us not to the salad bar
But deliver us from tofu
For thine is the gnocchi
The penne and linguine
Forever and ever
RAmen

12 responses to “German courts refuse to take pasta-based religion seriously”

  1. i love the prayer! seriously. this alone makes me believe in Pasta. i want to convert!!!!

  2. barriejohn says:

    “We are just as serious as every other religion”; that’s the bit that gets right up their noses!

    Meanwhile, a misleading anti-abortion advert gets the thumbs-up in Nor’n Ireland:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-40800382

  3. remigius says:

    Why on earth does he think the European Court of Justice would have any jurisdiction in the matter? They only deal with issues arising from the various Treaties of the European Union between member states.

    Perhaps he has confused the ECJ with the ECHR (European Court of Human Rights – run by the Council of Europe, not the EU). A lot of people do.

    @Eugene Panferov. There are many delightful versions of the Lord’s Prayer, here’s one we have in London…

    Our father who art in Hendon
    Harrow Road be thy name
    Thy Kingston come
    Thy Wimbledon
    In Erith as it is in Hendon
    Give us this day our Berkhamstead
    And forgive us our Westminsters
    As we forgive those who Westminster against us
    For thine is the Kingston
    The Purley and the Crawley
    For Iver and Iver
    Crouch End.

  4. remigius says:

    ‘German courts refuse to take pasta-based religion seriously’

    Well it’s a start. How about the one based on the naughty fruit from the magic tree? Or the one with the paedophile on the flying horse? Or the American one with the sacred underpants? Or the… (continued on page 94).

  5. Paul says:

    So pastafsrianism can’t be taken seriously but a man who was born of a virgin by his dad mysteriously and the man was also his dad and they had a ghost involved and they all became a ghostly trinity and he died and was resurrected and will come back again to save us and each week we can play at cannibals by eating his flesh though a biscuit and drink his blood through wine – that’s serious.

  6. Broga says:

    How can any sensible person take any of them seriously? The CSFM, unlike so many others, does no harm and does not persecute those with whom it disagrees.

  7. Paul says:

    It is very worrying all this, so I looked at the CFSM web site.
    They comment on global warming and this is serious, as is their research on it, together with data and a pretty impressive graph chart. Can’t deny science and fact in a graph chart.
    “Pastafarians are also skeptical about accepted causes of Climate Change. Years ago you’ll remember that we found a statistically significant relationship between the rise in average global temperature and the declining Pirate population.
    I’ll note that even after 10 years, this data still has not been dis-proven by the science community, which we interpret as implicit acceptance of it’s Truth.”

  8. barriejohn says:

    Paul: I am wondering whether the proliferation of pirate films might have had an effect on global temperatures. I wonder whether any research has been done into this?

  9. Graham Martin-Royle says:

    They’re no dafter than any other religion.

  10. barriejohn says:

    G M-R: That’s an understatement. What about Mormonism and Scientiology, for example? Their beliefs are totally bonkers.

  11. John - of course! says:

    THE KEY QUESTION IS “Where are all the saucy wenches?”
    When I tried to write that on Facebook – it vanished!
    It seems Facebook may be anti-pastafarianist in nature!
    Either that or they are just not proper believers!
    Which can it be?