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UK Muslims demand removal of ‘hateful’ messiah billboards

UK Muslims demand removal of ‘hateful’ messiah billboards

UK Muslims have reportedly launched a ‘coordinated campaign’ to have ‘offensive’ Ahmadiyya billboards removed from sites in London, Manchester and Glasgow.

An email template opposing the billboards – seen by Christian Today  – claims that:

The billboard incites hatred, it is deeply offensive and hurtful to millions of British citizens.

The email urges other Muslims to write to the Advertising Standards Authority, the Metropolitan Police and the Charity Commission to demand their removal.

The ASA confirmed that it has received 33 complaints so far about the adverts. A spokesman said people have claimed the billboards are:

Misleading because they believe it is not consistent with the teachings of the Koran.

He added:

Due to the perceived misrepresentation of Muslim beliefs, complainants also consider the ad offensive on this basis.

Launched by the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, a heavily persecuted minority Muslim sect, the billboards aim to promote the idea, considered heretical by mainstream Islam, that the Messiah promised in the Koran has already come in the person of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad.

The True Islam campaign said the billboard aims to educate the public on the beliefs of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community.

But the campaign has prompted outrage from Christians, Muslims and Jews who all have notions of a “messiah” in their beliefs and find the billboards offensive.

The ASA is assessing the complaints and will make a ruling this week as to whether there are grounds for further investigation.

Enter Archbishop Cranmer, who had this to say in a snarky piece:

This is a time for the ASA to recognise a coordinated campaign of sharia censorship when they see one, and to resist attempts to infringe the fundamental freedom of expression or impinge upon anyone’s freedom of religion; the freedom to proclaim one’s faith in the marketplace and to live in accordance with its precepts.

Ahmadiyya Muslims ought to be perfectly free to declare on billboards that the Messiah has come.

A spokesman for the True Islam Campaign, Farooq Aftab , said it was crucial Ahmadi Muslims were allowed to express their beliefs.

Every individual and group has the right to manifest and profess their faith and to curb this would not only be a breach of basic human rights but contrary to the values of freedom of speech and expression which we cherish in this country.

He added that Ahmadis are one of the oldest and most integrated Islamic community in the UK. and that said the billboards were being targeted in a coordinated campaign by other Muslim sects.

It is not for states, authorities or organisations to interfere in religious matters. There needs to be a clear separation of State and Church so to speak, otherwise we will go down a very slippery slope with groups or people trying to monopolise religion. No one can determine someone’s faith.

This is a matter between God and the individual and the hallmark of a pluralistic and democratic society.

Ahmadis believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, a 19th century Indian cleric, is the second coming of Jesus and subservient to the prophet Mohammed.

Ahmadiyya Muslims are shunned by other Islamic groups. Some claim he could not possibly be “a true prophet” because he died in a toilet in 1908, a claim vehemently denied by the Amadis.

In Pakistan a law was passed in 1978 that meant Ahmadis could not describe themselves as Muslims.

This has allowed hardline clerics to preach against Ahmadis who they consider a dangerous cult.

Such is the extent of persecution, the Ahmadi leader, or Caliph, had to flee Pakistan and move his main base to London in 1984.

For the last three decades, the UK capital has been the home of the global Ahmadiyya community.

Thousands have now fled to the UK after the first Ahmadi mosque was built in London in 1926 and there are now more than 30,000 Ahmadiyya in Britain.

67 responses to “UK Muslims demand removal of ‘hateful’ messiah billboards”

  1. Gaurav Tyagi says:

    To Stephen, I pee on Hinduism and yeah the term is racist so what. I was in London for a week in 2011 and the kind of conversations, I heard in the bars about races was far more stronger than my language over here. Don’t know why certain people are behaving like coy virgins over here inspite of being Freethinkers

    A Freethinker doesn’t care about the opinion of others about him. Elephants walk and dogs bark

  2. Daz says:

    “just because a Caucasian supported you a bit…”

    And here was me thinking the important part was that I’m a non-Muslim. That race rather than religion is your go-to identifier speaks volumes as to your true priorities.

    Zip up, old chap. Your bigotry is hangin’ out for all to see. An’ frankly, old bean, it’s a fuckin’ ugly, warty, dirty-looking thing. Does you no favours.

  3. Gaurav Tyagi says:

    Race and religions are all a matter of chance not choice, you are the one who started abusing me here.You shut up, instead of advising me what to do. I ain’t looking for no favors either. Racism, bigotry am I on a Freethinker website or the website of BBC.

    My true priorities are to show a mirror to the society seems characters like you wish to play both the sides that’s why you are arguing with me.

  4. Zubair Khan says:

    For existence of God reading already suggested. Proof of Messiah. He raised the claim from a tiny and remote village of India known as Qadian. During his period many other claimants also came in. Rather still coming. However no one survived. This Messiah is still there represented by his successors with presence in more than 207 countries with tens of millions of followers. Why any Hindu Christian’ Jewish or Muslim state never silenced this voice. All other claimants were silenced. Each day this Messiah is progressing all over the globe. Give me any example if any imposter survived 127 years and made so much followers. But this proof is not going to work on special VIP like you as you seem to be empty on your top.

  5. Gaurav Tyagi says:

    ‘An’ frankly, old bean, it’s a fuckin’ ugly, warty, dirty-looking thing’.

    Age is just a number, physical age does not reflect the mental maturity of an individual. I am not a old bean, seems you are one that’s why you are indulging in a pointless argument with me.

    No one chooses the race or religion he/she is born into, after which it takes loads of courage to rebel against the religion, one is born into and become an atheist.

    The fact that you are arguing with a fellow atheist shows the lack of mental maturity in you.

  6. Gaurav Tyagi says:

    Hey you Muslim moron, you don’t even have hair on your head, as I can see from your ugly dp so, you are the one who is empty on the top. I have adequate hair on my head plus a thinking mind.

    “This Messiah is still there represented by his successors with presence in more than 207 countries with tens of millions of followers. Why any Hindu Christian’ Jewish or Muslim state never silenced this voice. All other claimants were silenced. Each day this Messiah is progressing all over the globe”.

    Because politicians launder their black money through so called fraud messiahs like you mentioned in the above statement of yours. That’s why they get enough media space so, they can fool idiots like you and politicians can get mass votes of supporters of these imposters.

  7. Gaurav Tyagi says:

    To Barry Duke hey Barry just let me know when this comment chain of conversations breaks the all time record of The Freethinker as regard the largest no. of comments on a single article. I think we must be quite close to the record now, hahahaha.

  8. Gaurav Tyagi says:

    By the way, I am off to the bar to enjoy a few beers so, keep posting your comments, would reply back with no holds barred after a few hours

    By the way, any sports fans out here. Great game by the Scots yesterday to beat England in the 6 nations Rugby and just now New Zealand prevailed over England in a thrilling ODI

  9. Daz says:

    “The fact that you are arguing with a fellow atheist shows the lack of mental maturity in you.”

    You haven’t spent much time around atheists, have you? Nor, it would appear, have you paid much attention to logic or reason.

    The fact that we both agree on one thing—that there is no god (something I worked out by the time I was six)—does not imply that we would agree on another thing; for instance, whether race is a useful or desirable way in which to categorise people. There is no logical reason to assume that agreement on the former topic will lead to agreement on the latter; merely your own warped sense of in-group/out-group tribalism.

    And while I may disagree with Zubair Khan about many things, he, unlike you, has not espoused the dangerous and unreasoned hatred and bigotry which you appear to proudly hold up as a banner.

  10. Daz says:

    Zubair Khan says:

    “Give me any example if any imposter survived 127 years and made so much followers.”

    Jesus Christ and Joseph Smith. That L Ron Hubbard chappy seems to be holding up pretty well so far, too.

    Still waiting on anything which looks like actual evidence.

  11. Stephen Mynett says:

    Khan, ditto to Daz’s post. I had a brief look at the site you linked but it is too much reading for a busy person, especially when we have heard all the arguments before.

    Perhaps you could give an example, with proper evidence to show your god exists.

    GT, ditto to Daz’s other post, he is saving me a lot of typing. Bigotry and racism may be acceptable to you, they are not to me and the majority of the posters here.

  12. Khan Zubair Khalil says:

    Incorrect example. Jesus Christ was true messenger of God so he is still surviving and likely to continue till the day of judgement. His followers practicing true teachings are successful people as claimed by Quran.

  13. Daz says:

    “Jesus Christ was true messenger of God…”

    Since you have yet to produce good evidence in support of the existence of this “God” person, your claim that Jesus was his messenger is merely piling one unsubstantiated claim on top of another.

    “…so he is still surviving and likely to continue till the day of judgement.”

    Judgement by who?

  14. Broga says:

    Daz: We need the evidence. A good question is “What do you mean by God?”

  15. Khan Zubair Khalil says:

    Daz and Broga
    If you have read my previou mail I referred a convincing book about existence of God available on http://www.alislam.org. Unless you read it there will be no fruitful discussion about God.
    I agree every one ( not you ) presenting concept of God and faith in Him. Then question arises whose concept of God is correct. Here a step further is taken. Any observeable sign or miracle authenticating existence of God should get attention. So the Ahmadiyya Islam presents the concept of living God and His existence can be proven through observeable evidences.
    So first resolve the issue of God then you can understand about His messengers.

  16. Broga says:

    Khan Zubair Khalil : “Any observeable sign or miracle authenticating existence of God should get attention.”

    Really? Does that include bread and wine turning into flesh and blood thousands of times? Stone Virgin Mary’s weeping real tears. Prayers being answered by mediocrities the Pope decides to turn into saints. Images of Jesus on pieces of toast and dogs’ arses. A man walking on water. Other examples welcome.

    I wouldn’t have time to do anything useful like sawing my logs which are stacking up.

  17. Stephen Mynett says:

    There is no evidence Jesus existed, only stories about a character called Jesus in the Bible, a book full of contradictions.