Barry Duke describes how Islam militates against interaction and integration in liberal Western societies. This article first appeared in the Freethinker in August, 2007
MUSLIMS, we are told, constitute the most disadvantaged minority group in the UK, and many commentators across the political spectrum feel that it is incumbent on us, the host nation, to do more to help them out of poverty, and bad housing, and into work. And we must engage, much better than we do at present, with disaffected Muslim youth in particular, as they make up around a third of the Muslim population.
Furthermore, we must stop referring to the current wave of terrorism and planned terrorist acts as “Islamic” or “Islamicist” or “Islamist” or “Muslim” terror, as this only marginalises the alienated even more, and fuels further discontent, not to mention temper tantrums on a seismic scale.
But what few, if any, public figures will come straight out and say is that you cannot engage the unengageable.
Muslims are a sizeable minority in the UK – around 1.6 million. But there are many other groups who, despite retaining their distinctive identities, have eased themselves comfortably into our liberal Western democracy, embraced the best of our values, and, as a consequence, are excelling in just about every field of endeavour. They are highly valued contributors to our country – not a drain on our resources.
The success of these groups – be they Hindu, Sikh, Jew or Taoist – stems directly from the fact that their beliefs do not actively militate against integration (or even engagement with the host nation) in the same intractable way that Islam does.
To get some measure of Islam’s attempts to keep its adherents completely quarantined from the “sins” and the “dangers” of non-Islamic host cultures, I spent the best part of an entire day trawling Islam’s most sophisticated website, Islamonline.net, which has the slogan “Allah Almighty knows best”.
The site is renowned for its comprehensive “fatwa bank,” detailing, in question-and-answer format, everything that is halal (acceptable) or haram (forbidden) in Islam. New fatwas are added each day.
At the end of this sometimes amusing, but mostly depressing and tedious exercise, it became abundantly clear to me that Islam treats its adherents like tremulous, insecure children who cannot be allowed to function without having the minutae of their lives scrutinised by some nit-picking imam, mufti, sheikh or scholar, who then pronounces whether this action or that is halal or haram.
If the thousands of “ask the imam” questions posed are genuine – and I have no reason to believe they are not – they reflect such a degree of uncertainty, trepidation, fear, guilt, ignorance and paranoia that one is left feeling that Islam is far more of an obsessive-compulsive disorder than a religion.
Hundreds of questions concerning eye-glazingly trivial issues jostle for the attention of the all-male panellists on the site. Here is a typical example:
Is it permissible [in Islam] for a man to remove hair from the chest, back, and between the eyebrows?
Where else but in Islam does one need to seek religious clarification over an issue as trite as this?
The answer?
Brother, first of all, we’d like to say that we are impressed by your question, which emanates from a thoughtful heart. May Allah Almighty help us all adhere to the principles of this true religion, Islam, and enable us to be among the dwellers of Paradise in the Hereafter, Ameen.
As for your question, Dr Rif’at Fawzi, professor of Shari’ah at Cairo University, states:
There is no evidence from the Qur’an or the Sunnah that forbids cutting short the hair from the chest and back; but the removal of hair from these parts may be considered a form of imitating women, something forbidden according to the hadith: ‘May Allah’s curse be inflicted on women imitating men and vice versa.’ As for women, it is permissible for them to remove hair from these parts because it causes them harm.
As for removing the hair from between the eyebrows, it is lawful, because it is not part of the eyebrows. But as for plucking the eyebrows, it is forbidden and not permissible in Islam, according to the Hadith: ‘May Allah’s curse be inflicted upon women who pluck their eyebrows, and women hired to do this.’
Questions such as these, and the answers they elicit, are the stuff of pure comedy.
But many of the fatwas dished out stop being amusing when you consider how negatively they are likely to impact on Muslims’ relationships with their non-Islamic hosts.
Let me begin with something as simple as music, which weaves its way in and out of our lives in a myriad ways. When it is music of our own choice it is pleasurable, but when it leaks out of iPods or is piped down the telephone line or into a lift it can be an irritating intrusion. But we tolerate these annoyances, because – for better or worse – that’s what we do.
For Muslims, however, music is generally haram, because Imam Abu Haneefah – one of four famous Imams of jurisprudence (80AH-150AH or 699-767 AD) “detested singing and considered it sinful”, according to a piece posted on Islamicweb.com.
As for his disciples, they have explicitly confirmed the prohibition of listening to all musical amusements and pastimes, including wind instruments … all types of tambourines, hand drums … and even the striking of sticks. They have asserted that such actions constitute disobedience to Allah and that the performer of such action is sinful. They have further stated that it is incumbent upon the Muslim to struggle to avoid listening to such things, even if he were passing by or stationed near them (without any wilful intention). Abu Haneefah’s closest disciple, Abu Yoosuf, stated that if the sound of musical instruments and amusements were heard coming from a house, the house could be entered without permission of its owners and the noise silenced.
That passage – dare one say it – would have been music to ears of those fanatics who targeted Bali nightclubs five years ago, killing and maiming hundreds, and those who tried to detonate a car-bomb outside a club in central London in June. These places were targeted precisely because of their music and alcohol content, and because men and women were associating freely with one another.
Last month, Johann Hari, the Independent columnist, wrote of first encountering the radical Islamic group Hizb ut-Tahrir on the streets of East London.
At the Brick Lane Festival – a glorious burst of Hindu and Sufi Muslim music and laughter – they handed out leaflets telling Muslims they should not be present because the event contained ‘alcohol, dancing and free-mixing of sexes’. One Muslim girl snapped, ‘But those are all of my favourite things!’
To be fair, some Islamic authorities take a less harsh line on music. Here is an “enlightened” view from Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, a senior lecturer and an Islamic scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto:
What is commonly known as Western music is associated with sensuality, lust, and greed, all of which are diseases of the soul, so we cannot approve of listening to music with such an association. But if you’re able to single out and isolate music or songs with noble and pure messages and themes that ennoble the soul and spirit, you may listen to them as an occasional outlet provided that this does not distract you from the remembrance of Allah or performing your obligatory duties.
Another issue that puts Muslims in direct conflict with their host society is alcohol. We know that Muslims are not allowed to drink, but Islamonline makes it clear that they should also have no truck with people who do drink, or with places that serve drink.
Alcohol, whether we like it or not, is at the heart of every aspect of social activity in the West, and, in the UK, hotels, bars, restaurants, clubs, etc, are among the main providers of employment. But, because Muslims are told that it is haram to be involved in the serving of alcohol, those of a more pious nature – ie the majority – are forced to deny themselves employment in these service industries, as indeed they are in places like supermarkets or off-licences.
This from Dr Sano Koutoub Moustapha, professor of jurisprudence and its principles at the International Islamic University, Malaysia:
Alcohol is considered the mother of all sins and impurities … All in all, Muslims are not allowed to sell or buy or drink or even facilitate the process of selling or buying or transporting alcohol.
And from Dr Monzer Kahf, a “prominent” economist and counsellor:
Eating in halal restaurants that sell alcohol is permissible as long as you don’t share the same table with a person who drinks. It is, however, shameful for such restaurants to offer halal meat side by side with alcoholic beverages.
Similarly, Islamonline makes it clear that it is haram for taxi-drivers to transport passengers carrying alcohol, and that, wherever possible, they should avoid transporting people to or from haram venues such as bars, casinos, nightclubs and the like.
Muslims are also forbidden to drink non- alcoholic beer and wine. In response to a questioner who asked about these beverages, Islamonline provided this answer:
Both alcoholic and non-alcoholic beers and wines are haram. Once the beer or the wine is produced, alcohol is extracted from it to make it non-alcoholic. Never is 100 percent of the alcohol removed. The Islamic principle is that if the whole of a thing is haram, the part of it is also haram.
The Islamic Religious Council of Singapore, adds this:
Our position is that non-alcoholic beer is not halal. Our position is based on the premise that (1) It is drunk as an alternative to something which is haram, that is, alcoholic beer, and (2) The culture of wine and beer drinking which the drink entails is non-Islamic and, therefore, haram.
Therefore, based on the principle of blocking the doors to transgression in Islamic jurisprudence, non-alcoholic beer is haram.
After reading this, a mischievous thought popped into my head. Alcohol might well have prevented the Iraq war. If the drunken imbecile George W Bush had not swapped the demon drink for God – and had done the world an enormous favour by bladdering himself into an early grave – the catastrophic invasion of Iraq would never have occurred, and thousands of Muslim lives would have been saved.
But, as Islamonline insists, “Allah Almighty knows best.”
The banking industry – which employs millions in the West – is another potential source of conflict between religion and employment. While Islam does not frown on Muslims taking a job in a bank, it does stipulate that a Muslim must avoid being involved in any aspect of interest charging.
Here’s a question posed by a Muslim in the US.
My parents have recently heard from an eminent sheikh that one should not even eat in the house of one who works in a bank or is involved in riba [bank interest] as this is the equivalent of eating haram. As a result of this, for example, my parents have taken to not going to my uncle’s house (a very close family member) as his house is all built on haram.
And here is the answer:
First of all, we’d like to clarify that there’s no doubt that riba or interest is haram. However, a Muslim is permitted to work in a conventional bank as long as he or she does not prepare, write, sign or be a witness to riba contracts. Also, eating in the house of a person who is working in a bank or dealing with riba is not prohibited.
Dr Monzer Kahf, an economist and counsellor added:
There is no doubt that riba is one of the gravest of sins… It is worse than adultery, as the Prophet said in an authentic hadith. On the other hand, we have to be clear and put every thing in its right perspective. Nowhere in the Qur’an or the Sunnah or the recorded fiqh of all schools of fiqh do we find that we are required to boycott a person who deals in riba. We are required to keep advising him or her to quit the haram occupation.
That last sentence is repeated time and again in Islamonline. It is used, for example, in answer to a Muslim who was in a quandary over his job as an internet café manager in the US. He was concerned that people were using his computers to enter chat-rooms, and to look at pornography. He was advised to tell his customers not to use chat-rooms or view “objectionable” material, and to throw them out if they refused. The bottom line was that his job itself was haram, and his best solution was to quit it.
Islamonline does not like the internet, insisting that it is mainly in the control of “innovators”. Innovation, apparently, is a dirty word in Islam.
The cumulative effect of endless fatwas which declare that this occupation or that is haram is that vast areas of employment are effectively put beyond the reach of Muslims, and may go a long way to explain why, of all the minority groups in the UK, Muslims suffer the greatest from unemployment. Muslim leaders, of course, never see it from that perspective, and wrongly attribute this sorry state of affairs to “Islamophobia.”
Add to that the huge number of social strictures placed on young Muslims, and you have a recipe for frustration, fury, jealousy, resentment and hatred.
Which neatly brings me round to the most vexatious subjects in Islam: sex, sexuality and nudity. It’s an issue questioners return to time and again, and the answers given serve only to deepen frustration, ignorance, guilt and confusion – and, of course, reinforce prejudice.
One question, though, that had me laughing out loud was:
Are we allowed to masturbate during Ramadan? Does it break the fast if we do it?
The answer was this:
Ramadan is the month of mercy, forgiveness and seeking protection from the hellfire through various acts of worship. It is a special month in the sense that we are supposed to make the best use of our time to draw closer to Allah the Almighty by doing good deeds and staying away from bad deeds … that is why a Muslim should not only avoid the haram during Ramadan, but should not even think of it, as he or she is supposed to be involved in worship and increasing his or her good deeds.
As far as masturbation is concerned, we are required to avoid it at all times and not only in Ramadan.
Another Ramadan question that amused me was “During fasting I get a very dry throat. Are we allowed to swallow our own spit a little?” The answer was yes, but it was preceded by the inevitable windy guff about the question coming from “a thoughtful heart”, when, in truth it had clearly sprung from an empty head.
The masturbation question would, I imagine, have elicted a number of disapproving clucks among the Islamonline’s panel of bearded “experts”, but I guess the following – “how do I deal with homosexual friends?”– must have blown fuses all over its network.
Here’s the answer:
First of all, it should be clear that Muslim scholars are in agreement and have reached consensus – based on what has been revealed in the Qur’an and what has been authenticated in the Prophetic Sunnah – on prohibiting both gayness and lesbianism because in each of the two actions there is an assault on the humanity of a person, destruction of the family and a clash with the aims of the Lawgiver, one of which is the establishment of sexual instincts between males and females so as to encourage the institution of marriage.
Dr Muzammil Siddiqi, president of the Fiqh Council of North America, added:
We should deal with them in the same way we deal with any people who are involved in alcoholics (sic), gambling or adultery. We should have deep repugnance to their acts and we must remind and warn them. Those who insist on this lifestyle consider it legitimate and feel ‘gay pride’. We should not associate with them and should not take them as friends. We should certainly avoid those people.
And this from Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, the “moderate” Muslim buddy of London Mayor Ken Livingstone.
Muslim jurists hold different opinions concerning the punishment for this abominable practice. Should it be the same as the punishment for fornication, or should both the active and passive participants be put to death? While such punishments may seem cruel, they have been suggested to maintain the purity of the Islamic society and to keep it clean of perverted elements.
When confronted with nudity, or partial nudity, Muslims – who are taught from infants to be deeply ashamed of their naked bodies – are required to avert their gaze.
Islamonline says this is virtually impossible in certain circumstances, and advises the faithful to avoid places where one is likely to encounter such “sin”.
It bluntly declares:
Don’t go to the beach. Beaches and amusement parks attract many skimpily dressed people. Try to avoid such places. Instead, visit mountain areas, forests, and so on, which are vast and remote and where not so many people congregate in one place. Such places are also more enlivening for the spirit. Another alternative to beaches and amusement parks is interesting museums, where you will have plenty of other things to look at than half-naked bodies.
Museums? This puzzles me. Islam’s irrational antipathy towards art, and sculpture in particular, goes back centuries. In 1193, the son of Saladin, Al-Aziz Uthman, tried to demolish the Great Pyramids of Giza, Egypt, because they were an affront to Islam.
The reason why we can still visit them today is because the task at hand proved so big that he eventually gave up the attempt. He did, however, manage to inflict visible damage to Menkaure’s Pyramid, the smallest of the three.
A while back, an attack on statues at a museum in Cairo by a veiled woman screaming, “Infidels, infidels!” shocked the outside world. She had been inspired by Grand Mufti Ali Gomaa, who quoted a saying of the prophet Mohammed that sculptors will be among those receiving the harshest punishment on Judgment Day.
Al Qaradawi agrees that “Islam prohibits statues and three-dimensional figures of living creatures” and says that “the statues of ancient Egyptians are prohibited.”
In the Brussels Journal (May 15, 2007) someone writing under the name “Fjordman” said:
As a European, I fear for the future of the Louvre in Paris, the National Gallery in London, the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam and Michelangelo’s paintings in the Sistine Chapel in Rome. There is every reason to believe that they will end up the same way as the Bamiyan Buddhas. Although it may not happen today, tomorrow or even the day after tomorrow, sooner or later, pious Muslims will burn these works of art, and doubtless consider it their sacred duty.
Muslim immigration now threatens many of the masterworks of the Western tradition of art – the most inventive and groundbreaking mankind has ever seen – with annihilation. History will never forgive us for our cowardice and stupidity if we allow these treasures to be destroyed just because we think history is boring or don’t want to say anything unfashionable about other cultures.
The official reason given by Muslims for why non-Muslims are not allowed to visit the cities of Mecca and Medina is because they might damage or destroy the Islamic holy sites. But since Muslims have a proven track record of more than a thousand years, from Malaysia to Armenia, of destroying non-Muslim places of worship or works of art, perhaps we should then, in return, be entitled to keep Muslims permanently away from our cultural treasures?
Back to nudity. Islamonline also sounds a warning about visiting parks.
This doesn’t mean never taking the kids out to enjoy the slides and see-saws or having barbecues there. It does mean, perhaps, having activities on days that are cooler, or at times when the sun is not as hot and intense. This way, the prime time for sunbathing has passed, and most people either leave or feel cool enough to put some more clothes on.
Here I must declare an interest. On sunny summer days, whenever I have some leisure time, I like nothing better that to hit Brighton’s main nudist beach. I find it relaxing and pleasurable – except, occasionally, on those days when groups of Muslim youth “accidentally” discover the secluded area, and stand gawping and making deprecatory remarks about the sun-bathers, who, by and large, ignore their hostile stares, or their childish giggles. Occasionally an irate naturist, usually a woman, will tell them to “fuck off”.
Ex-Muslim Abul Kasem writes prolifically about Islam, sex and sexuality. In one essay posted on the internet, he sets out
To expose the hypocrisy, double standard, unfairness, absurdity and sheer irrationality of Islam when it comes to sex.
He also examines the barbaric rules that Islam inflicts on innocent people for having a simple sexually satisfying relationship whether married or not.
If you ever thought that Allah gave you sexual organs for your use as per your desire, then perish that thought. From birth to death, from adulthood to old age, from house to desert, every aspect of the use of your very own private part is controlled by innumerable, mindless, cruel and oftentimes utterly despicable Islamic rules written in the Sha’ria, the so-called divine laws of Allah.
The late Ayatollah Khomeini, Iran’s spiritual leader, introduced the death penalty for homosexuality, but bizarrely saw nothing wrong in a man sodomising a very young female, even an infant. This is one of his fatwas.
A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however, is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, but other sexual acts such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy are allowed.
A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man’s four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl’s sister.
Khomeini also wrote in his book Tahrirolvasyleh (fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990):
A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next-door village should be fine.
The oddest question on the site – and one which, to my mind, best illustrates how deeply mired Islam is in superstitious bilge – came from someone called Nancy in Egypt, wanting to know whether it was possible for a man to marry a Jinni.
Never having come across a Jinni (except in fairy-tales), this question pulled me up short. But thanks to a fatwa issued by Sheikh M S Al-Munajjid, a “prominent” Saudi Muslim lecturer and author, I was soon to be enlightened.
Allah Almighty has created certain creatures, some of them are known to us and some of them are not …
The Qur’an and Sunnah indicate that Jinn exist, and that there is a purpose for their existence in this life, which is to worship Allah Alone with no partner or associate. Allah Almighty says: ‘And I (Allah) created not the jinns and humans, except they should worship Me (Alone).’ (Adh-Dhariyat: 56)
Scholars are in disagreement over the difference between Jinn and demons. Some of them say that the word Jinn goes far to encompass the Jinn as well as the demons. The word also includes believing and unbelieving Jinn.
The world of the Jinn is an independent and separate world with its own distinct nature and features that are hidden from the world of humans. Jinns and humans have things in common, such as the ability to understand and choose between good and evil. The word Jinn comes from the Arabic root meaning ‘hidden from sight’.
Allah has created different types of Jinn. Among them are some who can take on different forms such as dogs and snakes; some who are like flying winds with wings; and some who can travel and rest.
Every individual among the sons of Adam has a Jinn who has been appointed to be his constant companion.
The Jinn live where we do live on this earth. They are mostly to be found in ruins and unclean places like bathrooms, dunghills, garbage dumps and graveyards. Hence the Prophet taught us to take precautions when entering such places.
Some Jinns are Muslims and some are non-Muslims.
Saying Bismillah (in the Name of Allah) before entering one’s home, eating or drinking, and having intercourse will keep Satan from entering the house or partaking with a person in his food, drink and sexual activity. Similarly, mentioning the name of Allah before entering the toilet or taking off one’s clothes will prevent the Jinn from seeing a person in a state of undress, or harming him.
Getting to the nub of the question, the Sheikh says jurists define marriage as “a contract that makes it lawful for a man to make love to a woman without there being a lawful prohibition to this marriage.” A lawful prohibition here refers to marriage to another man or to a hermaphrodite, a polytheist woman, a closely related woman, or a female Jinn (Jinni).
Marrying a Jinni “may result in bringing forth a child having Jinn characteristics”, which is a good reason for not permitting such a union, he added. Another “expert” pointed out that, because Jinn were essentially shape-changers, they might conceivably also change sex, so a man marrying a Jinni risks finding himself in an illicit union with a male, should the Jinni suddenly wake up one day brandishing a penis.
If Islamonline and sites like it have any value at all, it is to offer proof to us infidels that Islam is not merely out of step with civilised Western values – it is out of step by centuries.
If all the time spent by Islamic professors and Imams and sheikhs and mufti mulling over trivia like eyebrow plucking and masturbation and Jinn, and how to avoid facing Mecca when taking a dump on the moon, were put to better use, the Islamic world would not be wallowing, as it does now, in a morass of ignorance and stupidity, violence and sectarianism.
It is nothing short of tragic that the pinnacle of the Islamic world’s technological achievements in the 21st century are suicide bomber belts and bicycles designed to hide the lowers portions of women.
To dignify such a pitiful, pathological, obsessive religion with respect, and to make efforts to accommodate its never-ending demands, is to invite catastrophe.
Furthermore, it does a terrible disservice to the many thousands of Muslims who would like nothing better than for us to help them exit Islam and enter the real world, where interminable whining and periodic bouts of rage are indulged in only by spoiled sprogs and spotty adolescents, who soon get the message that if they don’t stop grizzling we’ll soon give them something to grizzle about.
But give Islam an inch, and you can be certain it will seize the whole nine yards, as Ophelia Benson, of the website Butterflies and Wheels, made clear in this eloquent and passionate paragraph written after the latest tantrums thrown by infantile flag- and effigy-burning Islamaniacs when Salman Rushdie was knighted:
Along with not giving them an inch it’s crucial that we keep explaining to them and to the fans of inch-giving why we are not giving them an inch and why they have no right to an inch and why they have no legitimate grievance about their non-receipt of an inch. We have to keep explaining loudly and softly, briefly and at length, rudely and politely, and always lucidly. We have to keep on and on and on doing it until they get the point. ‘No inch is forthcoming because you have no, repeat no, legitimate claim to an inch. Now go away.’


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February 20th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
This is great stuff. We need a new Monty Python for the 21st century to satirise this.
Always look on the bright side of life!
February 27th, 2009 at 12:20 am
Interesting read, but be careful basing an entire thread on research done on google.com. Some Muslims might well be backward, petty and insular and you’ve clearly uncovered some of them here. But this does not mean all muslims are, and certainly most of the muslims i know are forward-thinking, progressive and productive members of society. Two of the muslims i work with are oxford graduates with stunning career trajectories.
just a thought.
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March 1st, 2009 at 1:15 pm
I find it amusing that the writer of this thread harks on about scholars spending or wasting their time researching fatwas and century old scriptures to merely prove that God exists….It’s clear that the writer has spent many a days/hours or even weeks reasearching (or perhaps wasting his own atheist time) in collating information from google to try to ‘disprove’…if you don’t believe, then don’t…why get all het up about people that do? Does that not make you just as bad as those fanatics???
March 2nd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
“M. Smith” – On the contrary. I think time spent exposing religious stupidity is time very well spent indeed.
Why don’t you?
March 7th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Articles such as this are essential for us muslims. As a non-practising, disenchanted muslim I believe the muslim world needs a kick up its collective backside. I’m 39 and I can’t reacll anything remotley beneficial coming from the Islamic world. The best Academics the most useful research all is produced by non muslim socities. Our religion is a chain it keeps us scared, igonorant and hostile to everyone else. It’s no conincidence that secluar socities that have pushed religion behind closed doors have flourished and produced marvelous gifts for humanity. It’s so sad to see a muslim with a Phd in the sciences still harping on about Jinns and the mortal sin of plucking eyebrows. Lets hops Islam goes the way of Christinaity in Europe.
March 19th, 2009 at 8:08 am
the evidence cited is at times. from credible sources, at times from totally unreliable sources. it seems Islam’s focus on details is being ridiculed, but it is precisely that which makes Islam not just a religion, but a way of life. This article is written without the understanding of the basic ideas and principles of Islam, without which Islam does look ridiculous. It’s all in the context and interpretation. The author should enlighten himself more about Islam, else not write such ignorant articles.
June 5th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
As a culture, what has the islamic people contributed to the whole of humanity in the last 3 centuries? Eastern and western cultures have provided humanity as a whole with art, medicine, advanced technology, new ways of self government, and many, many more. While islam has provided death, destruction and a promise to kill all of us who disagree with them. Do not give them one inch, resist them at all costs, we will not be assimilated into their self-delusional nightmare.
July 8th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Well, I have been trying to make a go of it and blogging my brains out, but I certainly have to give you credit. That was excellently done. I don’t always make such clear points and a lot of blogs I read are poorly written and leave wondering just what were they trying to say.
I find it so hard to come up with new ideas and rewritting someone else’s work can backfire. Particularly if you don’t know whether they are truly an expert in their field. The longer I work on the internet the more I wonder about most of the content. However, to be fair their are many aurthors in the print media out there that espouse their ideas as fact when they are clearly questionable. It is almost as easy to have a book published as an ebook.
Anyway, thanks for the great blog.
July 8th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Can someone do research on what the so called west was upto before islam? For a start, Muslims thought the west how to "clean" or what water does starting in Spain.
and wasn't it the westerners were in the "dark ages" lost in its own world whilst the Muslims calculated the most genius astronomical and mathematical knowledge.
Also, wasnt it the westerners who raged war against Muslims to divide and conquore for centuries they spent planning how to defeat the Muslims and ways in doing so just because they were bettern than westerners.
wasnt it the westerners who classified women as nothing but a usable body for anything man wishes for just like in Arabia before Islam was reveled.
wasnt it the westers today and over the last 200 years trying their best to turn Muslims into history books by causing internal wars, dividing land and intruding into the very two brothers who now kill each other for the sake of what? democracy – which no-one clearly understands even today in the eastern world.
and wasnt it the westerners who stole all the belonging and richness of the east. Look today all of you who complain about the east live because of the east. Without Muslims still forgivesness, none of you will have gas to run your flashy cars.
arent you the oens that are so dependent on the east that the only way you can secure such dependency is to conquure and control it yourself by fearing that Muslims one day might cut the rope.
and Shall i go on or are you still arrogant about what your governments do in Africa? starving millions of black people to death, let alone first enslave them and built their undergrounds, cities with those peoples slavements. Wasnt it the westerners caused internal war between africans and stole their golds, and now today diamonds and left all africans dying.
wasnt it the westerners that practices viruses and different experiments on Africans which caused and even today causing millions of people to die of AIDS and so much more
sorry i thought im not ment to carry on but it doesnt matter how much i carry on for, all of you will be arrogant still.
And now coming to the Ayollah sheikh. I mean who takes his word. Muslims only believe and follow what the Quaran and the Sunnah says. Such people talking are just opinions. If we Muslims (about 2-3 billion of us) follow such dillutted leaders as this guy, then do u really think your kids will be next to you today?
If we were killers and terrorists, look at the history, if we have behaved like the way you people behaved over the history, do you think any one of you were alive or non-muslim?
Just pick up a history book and start reading your own history before going int o someone elses.
I mean you guys just got the taste of Justice and Law about 200 years now. I mean you are at the merely start of its benefits and guess what as you can see today, your systems are going down with you and Islam will be once again victorious. No matter how much you dont accept or agree but Islam will lead the world again with proper Justice and Law.
July 10th, 2009 at 7:47 am
It is very obvious what Muslims are trying to tell the West is that you leave us alone and we leave you alone. Who has done the greatest terrorism on the people of the World; surely they are not the Muslims. Do you know who were the perpetrators of the plight of innocent Jews by Nazis (Christians) in WWII and Northern Ireland bombing of children’s school, the ethnic genocide and raping of over 50,000 Muslim village women by the civilized Europeans, or what is happening in Chechnya, Kosovo, Kashmir, Palestine so on and so forth. What bigger terrorism would be other than burning alive of 4,000 Muslim men, women and children, some 6 months old by fanatic Hindus in Gujrat India in 2002, while the local police kept watching it. From colonizing the Muslim World to steal everything of value such as diamonds like Kohinoor, etc. to bringing coup in Iran and destroying the infant democracy there to steal oil and installing corrupt king, bombing of Iraq to kill hundreds of thousands of innocent lives under the pretext of weapon of mass destruction, and now killing innocent people in Afghanistan and Pakistan by drones, only non Muslims can do that, Muslims cannot. (Contnued below)
July 10th, 2009 at 7:48 am
With a write up like this full of blatant lies and hatred of Islam and Muslims , you can deceive only yourselves. Obviously, lslam being the fastest growing religion in the World and in Europe and States, the wise and more honorable people think of Islam differently from what your biased opinion portrays. I was amazed recently to find that the largest group of Americans embracing Islam is the White University graduates women. That also shows that Islam did not spread with sword but with deep understanding of the religion.
July 21st, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Hate begets hate, it always has and always will.
I cant believe supposedly intellegent people have resorted to what amounts to "he started it"
Shame on you
October 19th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
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January 31st, 2010 at 4:53 pm
I work as Human resource officer in a hotel.But there is a bar in the hotel and alchol is served to the guests.i have no connection with kitchen or bar or guests.I want to know doing job in a hotel is halal???
January 31st, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Halal? Haram? No-one here cares. We are atheists and have no time for such nonsense.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:38 am
its not about who started what and it is not about history. It is about the present and the future. A future without the stupidity of religion. No matter what flavor all religion is absurd and stands as an obstacle to human progress. Wake up!
March 14th, 2010 at 2:04 am
tahnk you
brother irshad,realworldoflove and yunus for your exccellent comments.my comment is pls read quraan with its english traslations before you write something about islam.don’t judge islam on some named muslims activity and on comments of some selfguided scholar which is not in the quraan and in the hadith of prophet Mohammed(pbuh).pls go through quraan and hadith to understand ISLAM,I AM SURE YOU WILL FEEL SORRY FOR YOUR TOPIC. MAY ALLAH GUIDE YOU TO UNDERATAND THE SWEETNESS OF ISLAM.
April 28th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
I get really pissed off with this “fastest growing religion in the world”. So you’re too fucking thick to use contraception, and accelerating the destruction of your natural resources by having a football team of children you can’t feed, and you’re PROUD OF IT?!